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    #21
    Originally posted by Plutö View Post
    Well, put it this way, if Pacquiao goes up 12lbs to fight at WW, I don't see how JMM can't do it. DLH - Pacquiao compared to JMM - PBF. Now that I think about it more, I don't see a problem with JMM having to move up anymore.
    Since when can a 35 year old marquez carry weight as well as pac? and would mayweather come in at 147 on fight night like dlh did?

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      #22
      Originally posted by tyde13 View Post
      b/c he ALSO wants the biggest "money" fight available......

      cotto is already tied up for june, and let's face it, mosley is a waaaaaay more difficult fight for floyd than marquez, especially coming off a layoff.

      and like i keep saying, he doesn't want marquez to do anything.....marquez called floyd out.....




      dang tyde...check you out...all in the green nowadays

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        #23
        Originally posted by deevel79 View Post
        If he's not a true WW, then why is he demanding his next fight take place at WW? If he wants to fight smaller guys, then he should move down in weight. Plain and simple.
        Yeah, that's pretty much what I was saying. I see no reason for Floyd to be trying to lure a similarly small man up to a division that he doesn't even really need to be in.

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          #24
          Originally posted by deevel79 View Post
          If he's not a true WW, then why is he demanding his next fight take place at WW? If he wants to fight smaller guys, then he should move down in weight. Plain and simple.
          Nobody hated on big Margarito for wanting to fight little Floyd. At least Floyd moved up through the weights Margarito was killing himself to make 147.

          I don't care what anybody says Floyd clearly isn't a legit 147lb fighter. The other 147lb fighters walk around weighing much more than Floyd does.

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            #25
            Originally posted by deevel79 View Post
            If he's not a true WW, then why is he demanding his next fight take place at WW? If he wants to fight smaller guys, then he should move down in weight. Plain and simple.
            I think whats happening is that Floyd wants to remain at 147 ( for a future Pacquiao bout ) but isn't keen on coming off a layoff and jumping in with Mosley and so he's gotten a great fighter like JMM to move up to fight him ( like with DLH - Floyd )

            If Floyd plans on staying at 147, he see's no point in cutting weight to fight at 140

            Personally i think the weight should be 143

            Floyd would be coming off a 2 year layoff and dropping 4 lbs while JMM would be increasing 8 lbs ( equivalent of DLH - Floyd but JMM wouldn't be as heavily outweighed )

            Also JMM called out Floyd, if JMM feels Floyd 's ( the bigger draw ) demands are too high then he should take on Valero

            I think Floyd has got future fights in mind when taking this fight, they will be at 147, hence 147 being the weight

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              #26
              Originally posted by deevel79 View Post
              I dont understand. He's firm on his decision to make his next fight at 147, yet wants a LW to come up from 135 to 147. Now this thread isnt about hate. Its about common ***ing sense! Why not just take on a credible WW if he's dead set on making his next fight at 147?
              PBF is in the enviable position that he calls the shots. He can say to any potential opponent that it's either my way or the highway. So obviously he want's to create the best possible starting point which is to have JMM move up. Or pac moving up. Those fights are less dangerous than Cotto or SSM at 147, but still carries a lot of name value.

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                #27
                Originally posted by RoyJonesJrp4pno1 View Post
                I don't care what anybody says Floyd clearly isn't a legit 147lb fighter. The other 147lb fighters walk around weighing much more than Floyd does.



                then dont fight at 147

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                  #28
                  I don't think Floyd will budge and make a catch weight. Face it guys, Floyd is a WELTERWEIGHT and has been since 2005. Why in the world would he try moving down in weight after fighting 2 yrs at WW (with a world title) and come off a 2 yr layoff to fight at a 14-143 catch weight?

                  Floyd still wants to high reward / low risk and he sees it in JMM. The only problem is even if he fights and beats JMM at 147, he won't get any credit for it. JMM is unproven at any weight above 135. At least with Pac he fought at 147 and is now fighting at 140.

                  But after the smoke settles and he fights either Pac, JMM, or both...he's gotta take on either Cotto or Mosley. Either is a box office draw.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by RoyJonesJrp4pno1 View Post
                    Nobody hated on big Margarito for wanting to fight little Floyd. At least Floyd moved up through the weights Margarito was killing himself to make 147.

                    I don't care what anybody says Floyd clearly isn't a legit 147lb fighter. The other 147lb fighters walk around weighing much more than Floyd does.
                    Both Marg and Floyd were fighting at WW at the time Marg called him out. Its not as if Floyd was a LW and Marg was calling him out to come face him at 147. Big difference.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by real og View Post
                      i think whats happening is that floyd wants to remain at 147 ( for a future pacquiao bout ) but isn't keen on coming off a layoff and jumping in with mosley and so he's gotten a great fighter like jmm to move up to fight him ( like with dlh - floyd )

                      if floyd plans on staying at 147, he see's no point in cutting weight to fight at 140

                      personally i think the weight should be 143

                      floyd would be coming off a 2 year layoff and dropping 4 lbs while jmm would be increasing 8 lbs ( equivalent of dlh - floyd but jmm wouldn't be as heavily outweighed )

                      also jmm called out floyd, if jmm feels floyd 's ( the bigger draw ) demands are too high then he should take on valero

                      i think floyd has got future fights in mind when taking this fight, they will be at 147, hence 147 being the weight

                      agreed with the bold

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