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    #21
    Originally posted by S a m u r a i View Post
    I call what you're saying bull****, because I'd like you to find a post I made which say he has no skills.

    He does have some skills, I can appreciate the things he's good at, but overall I don't think he's a great technical fighter with anything but average footwork. If this offends you, sorry pal.
    Average, average? Do you think you might have jumped it with AVERAGE?.

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      #22
      Hatton is pretty quick on his feet, he has good foot movement. His footwork does not work well against a technical fighter. Manny Pacquiao is not technical so Hatton's footwork will look better than it really is against Pacquiao. IMO.

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        #23
        Originally posted by S a m u r a i View Post
        I have. Like I said though, he does have fast feet, but I think he doesn't use them to make smart moves with.

        I was just looking at this video below, watching only his feet, and I think it looks amateur. Obviously it's just on the heavy bag and not a fight, but still, it adds to my conclusion that his footwork is overrated. (Not basing my opinion on this single video, btw).


        I had the same reaction watching that video. He does that sort of break dancing kick to reset his feet in position and seems to do it pointlessly but that's only against the bag. You have to remember that when a boxer is hitting a heavybag it's not just to mindlessly hit it, but they do many things that would seem 'pointless' only because when they are hitting the heavybag they are supposed to imagine the opponent and fighting a real opponent and as such you sort of mentally imagine yourself evading and setting up your feet in certain ways and other things that basically you would otherwise only be doing in a real ring against a real opponent. But the video on the whole just made me think that Hatton's getting old and slowing down because he seems really slow with bad/awkward timing (I know heavybag is not the best place to gauge one's timing but still) and lacks pop on his power. I watched even an old video with him training with his last trainer on the infamous body bag and Hatton seemed to have far more speed and explosiveness. I'm hoping that this is only due to the fact that he's still few months away from the fight and so he's not in his best condition/shape yet but I can't help but wonder if this is really him just slowing down and getting old. I had him by EASY and BRUTAL KO over Pacquaio and still do, but watching this video nevertheless has planted the first seed of doubt in me.

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          #24
          Originally posted by kev183 View Post
          Hatton is pretty quick on his feet, he has good foot movement. His footwork does not work well against a technical fighter. Manny Pacquiao is not technical so Hatton's footwork will look better than it really is against Pacquiao. IMO.
          Pac doesn't clinch either and can get off balance. Plus he is more of an in and out fighter. I can't wait to see Pac's face expression when he can't find a distance.

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            #25
            i agree. i don't think his footwork is anything to write home about.

            except quite often he rushes in too fast and directly into a clinch

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              #26
              he's got very good pressure fighter foot work.tyson esque.
              but he doesn't have the hand skills tyson had.
              Last edited by AntonTheMeh; 04-04-2009, 06:33 PM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by El Dominicano View Post
                Pac doesn't clinch either and can get off balance. Plus he is more of an in and out fighter. I can't wait to see Pac's face expression when he can't find a distance.
                Yeah Pacquiao gets off balance a lot and JMM made him pay for that. Hatton is not JMM(Technical master and counterpuncher) so let's see in what way does Hatton make Pacquiao pay for his off balance punches. I picture Hatton kinda using his feet to get in under Pacquiao when he throws that off balance left, and making him pay with a body shot. But let's see if i'm wrong or right on May 2nd. It's gonna be interesting to see how they handle eachother.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by S a m u r a i View Post
                  I came to the conclusion that it is. Having studied it some more, he tends to do really pointless things with his feet. I always knew something looked odd and was almost irritated by it! It's like he's just moving his feet for the sake of it rather than actually doing anything smart with them. At least, how he moves can occasionally look dumb. Why does he remind me of a demented skinhead dancing? I don't know how else to describe what he does.

                  He does close distance quickly, and I guess some would consider this fast, smart footwork, but I don't see anything special about rushing at an opponent like this. Against Pac, I get the feeling he will use a similar style to what he's used to -- rushing in, swarming, making it rough -- but at the same time trying to use his head and out-think Pacquiao, use more head movement, attempt to pull off smart footwork, and try to create angles in order to get to Pac's body. But out of this, I see a confused style that could prove to be unsuccessful. To win, I don't think Ricky should do anything except rely on his instincts. Floyd Sr. could actually be his downfall in this fight. Ricky wll end up trying to execute a game plan like he's reading it from a book, putting in a stiff performance where he's trying too hard and having to think too much.

                  Of course, I could be over-analyzing it, but sometimes you need to ramble on for a minute.


                  There is an element of truth to what you say, but i dont know about overrated.


                  Hatton does close the distance very quickly, and he does step to the side and switch the angle to attack you when he gets inside.

                  Hatton style is about slipping inside the jab or outside the jab to mount attacks. Hatton has problems when he he gets caught in mid bob and weave. The bob and weave is generally ONLY a side to side movement like a windshield wiper, but it does not allow you to sway or step BACK from a punch in order to counter. Why? because your weight is generally always on the front foot. The only motion that will allow is side to side movement.



                  When you see the way Hatton got knocked, it is a perfect example to a young fighter of why you should step off the line when you are attacking, but having said that generally Hatton does do that.

                  Chavez is one of the best fighters ive seen at cutting off the ring, and i dont think Hatton does it aswell as him. However Hatton does it effectively enough. I mean he did not have much trouble finding Mayweather in a 22ft ring, although some would say Mayweather allowed him to cut the ring down etc.

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                    #29
                    He has good footword and his speed of foot is pretty damn good. To bad he has slow hands.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by S a m u r a i View Post
                      I call what you're saying bull****, because I'd like you to find a post I made which say he has no skills.

                      He does have some skills, I can appreciate the things he's good at, but overall I don't think he's a great technical fighter with anything but average footwork. If this offends you, sorry pal.
                      Hatton can't fight inside too well, come to think of it. Just ask Floyd.
                      His body punches are overrated anyway.
                      I do think Hatton is a bit one-dimensional
                      Hatton's style is just awful
                      Just a few there.

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