Calzaghe Rejects Golden Boy Offer For Hopkins Rematch

[Slater P Persin]

What's Larkin got to do with anything? I have never once mentioned Larkin! And what is your evidence that the offer Showtime said they made in 2001 (not 2002) was bogus? Maybe it was too low, but that is hardly Calzaghe's fault. Or that Joe wasn't willing to fight in the States in 2000 and 2001 despite saying at that time on numerous occasions that he was? And why are you STILL ignoring the fact that Hopkins and Calzaghe agreed terms to fight in 2002 and then Hopkins doubled his purse demand at the last moment and pulled out? If you had even the remotest slaver of intellectual honesty you would at least give him props for that - instead of which you claim Joe did everything possible to avoid that fight, when it was Hopkins who pulled out of it? That shows you up as a total idiot.

You're just getting more and more pathetic, never providing any evidence for any of your claims, just putting forward your prejudices over and over again and pretending they are facts.

Because they had no contract, They negotiated for a fight, So what. It happens all the time. And by the way it was a fight against a no name at the time. A huge no name, And I don't believe the Calzaghe camps story anyway. Their all liars that produced the biggest lie in boxing history, Calzaghe's career. When Hopkins comes out and says he ducked Calzaghe I'll believe it. But we both know that is ****** and did not happen.

[NakiFan]

Joe doesn't want to give Hopkins another payday

[bsrizpac]

Because they had no contract, They negotiated for a fight, So what. It happens all the time. And by the way it was a fight against a no name at the time. A huge no name, And I don't believe the Calzaghe camps story anyway. Their all liars that produced the biggest lie in boxing history, Calzaghe's career. When Hopkins comes out and says he ducked Calzaghe I'll believe it. But we both know that is ****** and did not happen.

Look man, you are wasting time trying to talk reality with Joe nut munchers. They are too far gone up Joe's ass for them to understand what you are saying.

[Sir Tom Jones]

Look man, you are wasting time trying to talk reality with Joe nut munchers. They are too far gone up Joe's ass for them to understand what you are saying.

a lot of the joe haters have an unhealthy obsession with joe that rivals the 'joe nut munchers' true story.

[SonOfCuba]

I smell *****... is that you Joe ?

[Dave Rado]

Because they had no contract, They negotiated for a fight, So what. It happens all the time. And by the way it was a fight against a no name at the time. A huge no name, And I don't believe the Calzaghe camps story anyway. Their all liars that produced the biggest lie in boxing history, Calzaghe's career. When Hopkins comes out and says he ducked Calzaghe I'll believe it. But we both know that is ****** and did not happen.

Considering I have said several times that Hopkins did NOT duck Calzaghe, why would he have to say that he did in order to convince you that he didn't? Contracts were drawn up for a fight at the time, and he pulled out, doubling his pay demands, but Hopkins didn't duck Joe, or Roy Jones, or anyone else. It was due to his animosity with Don King at the time.

No one ducked anyone you idiot. The point is that you keep pretending that Calzaghe didn't want those fights, despite a massive amount of evidence to the contrary , and despite the fact that you have not been able to find a single iota of evidence to support your claims. That shows you are not a rational person but just a ridiculously prejudiced hater.

As you still haven't produced any evidence whatsoever, I'm done with this silly debate. You don't debate with people, you just vomit your prejudices over them.

[SkilledB]

See even joe knows he barley got by

he dosnt want Hopkins again

he got a gift SD

[Sparked_1985]

Joe Calzaghe's ****.

I'd beat him.

[Dave Rado]

Look man, you are wasting time trying to talk reality with Joe nut munchers. They are too far gone up Joe's ass for them to understand what you are saying.

What he is saying is that he is uninterested in facts, only in preserving his precious prejudices intact, without being able to produce any evidence to support his prejudices. Seems you are equally irrational. He is constantly twists what other people say (no one in this thread accused Hopkins of ducking) and makes self-contradictory statements, like admitting that Hopkins didn't want to fight Calzaghe in 2002 because Calzaghe wasn't a big name then, and then in the same post saying that it's Calzaghe's fault that the fight didn't happen at that time, even though he admits that it was Hopkins who didn't want it. That's just moronic logic.

It's irrational haters like you, who will never let an inconvenient fact get in the way of a precious opinion, and who are completely uninterested in actual evidence, who have your head up his arse, or your own arse. Nuthuggers and irrational haters are both cut from the same cloth, neither are genuine boxing fans.

Fact is, whether you like it or not, all of the P4P ratings had the guy at or around #3 at the time he retired.

Fact is, he couldn't get the big fights earlier in his career because his own division, which he dominated for many years, was weak, and the top fighters in other nearby divisions thought he wasn't a big enough name to want to fight him - just like Mike McCallum couldn't get the really big fights when he was at his peak.

Fact is, there are literally hundreds of press reports from that time that prove he was trying to get those fights, and that he got in serious negotiations with Hopkins, which Hopkins pulled out of because of his animosity with King.

Fact is, you don't care about facts, unless they happen to support your prejudices. Which means you're just a troll.

[Slater P Persin]

Considering I have said several times that Hopkins did NOT duck Calzaghe, why would he have to say that he did in order to convince you that he didn't?

No one ducked anyone you idiot. The point is that you keep pretending that Calzaghe didn't want those fights, despite a massive amount of evidence to the contrary

Calzaghe ducked Hopkins and anyone else that was any good. If there is any decent evidence I can gaurentee the offrs were made with Joe kicking and screaming. I'm sure they were bluff offers. Look at Joe's pathetic opponent list for proof. I sure as hell didn't see NO NAME JOE trying to force a fight with Hopkins or anyone else with a pulse, Fighters have been known to do that once in a while you know. Especially when no one knows who the F they are..... Usually guys try to make there name beating on people who have one. not by hiding in the shadows beating on other no names pretending the super stars should come to them. That's like me saying a high paying job should come to me, I said I want one? I don't have experience and I'm not going to look for one but WTF? I said I want it. I'll just keep sitting here waiting for all the old employees to get old and retire! I filled out this application but I'm not going to send it in. It's here though see. Proof I wanted the job 10 years ago....