Juan Baby Bull Diaz and the cut factor

[mathed]

A lot of people have been claiming that, but I dissagree. It was more a result of the body work and all the pin point fluish shots accumilating and takign their toll. Even before the cut you could see from about the 6th round on that the tide was turning and Marquez was landing almost at will where as Dias was missing so many of his shots. The cut may have accelerated his demise, but Marquez would have knocked Diaz out regardless, there was just a disparity in class between the two fighters.

I saw in both fights that at almost the same point in which Diaz received the cuts, his entire style changed as well as his facial expression- from confident to concerned.

He was all up on Marquez the entire fight until he received the cut. Almost immediately after, he is standing about an extra foot or two away from Marquez and less active. I'm sure the body shots were messing him up, no doubt about that; however he was scared of getting tagged in that eye (I assume) and the extra distance allowed Marquez to land his uppercuts with leverage. After the distance was there, two rounds is all it took.

[mellow_mood]

It's amazing how he fell apart in both fights after the cut. Maybe he can't stand the sight of his own blood.

i agree with this...

he was not clearly dominating.....but for me.. in a close fight he was winning with jmm landing the more accurate shots!! but as soon as he saw his blood...

se juyo..!!

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

I saw in both fights that at almost the same point in which Diaz received the cuts, his entire style changed as well as his facial expression- from confident to concerned.

He was all up on Marquez the entire fight until he received the cut. Almost immediately after, he is standing about an extra foot or two away from Marquez and less active. I'm sure the body shots were messing him up, no doubt about that; however he was scared of getting tagged in that eye (I assume) and the extra distance allowed Marquez to land his uppercuts with leverage. After the distance was there, two rounds is all it took.

I saw it the same his whole face changed and yes he fought hard but he did step back a little bit and give JMM more room to punch and the sapce given allowed full extension on those punches.,...Lefty

[Pullcounter]

It's amazing how he fell apart in both fights after the cut. Maybe he can't stand the sight of his own blood.

making diaz bleed is definitely the way to beat him

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

making diaz bleed is definitely the way to beat him

This was my thought adn the reason why I created this thread...Lefty

[-Antonio-]

When I watched the fight a second time, it confirmed to me that he didn't fold after being cut. Fold as in give up or stop trying to win. What happened was, he had no defense anymore. JMM turned up the heat and Diaz couldn't avoid any punches. If he would have folded, he wouldn't have won the first half of round nine with a consistant stiff jab.

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

When I watched the fight a second time, it confirmed to me that he didn't fold after being cut. Fold as in give up or stop trying to win. What happened was, he had no defense anymore. JMM turned up the heat and Diaz couldn't avoid any punches. If he would have folded, he wouldn't have won the first half of round nine with a consistant stiff jab.

I am not saying he completely folded I am saying you could see the expression on his face like DAMN it is happening again. his body language changed he backed off a little bit and gave marquez that space to execute his upper cut and cross...Lefty

[LEFTYGUNZZ]

I am bringing this one back August 22nd is approaching rapidly. My thought is how will this fight play out? I know Paulie is not a big puncher but what if Juan gets cut again? Do you see a cut against Paulie having the same effect it has had on Juan in his two losses against Campbell and Marquez?......Lefty

[TxHustla]

yeah i dont think he (Diaz) handles his cuts too well..NEITHER DOES HIS ****ING CORNER..BOTH TIMES THEY FAILED TO PUT VASOLINE ON THE CUT TO CLOG IT OR ANYTHING..WTF!! IM NOT A CUTMAN BUT **** EVEN I KNOW THAT!!


but yeah vs campbell and marquez u could see Juan was discouraged once he got cut..but he kept fighting....BUT with a lil reserve yes. I think Marquez was already turning the tide before the cut tho and wouldve won by KO either way..Diaz was winning the fight tho..by 2 to 3 rounds. Im glad i forked over the $$ to sit ringside...ill be there vs paulie too..

I dont see Paulie doing much damage to Diaz but if he does get cut..i think he'll be more confident in finishing paulie stilll since hes not much of a threat power wise..

[RoyJonesJrp4pno1]

he is similar to judah..when he's hurt he falls apart..but atleast he didnt quit though i give him credit for taking his beating like a man..so scratch that judah part

You havn't seen Zabs fight with Cotto? That was brutal and he took it like a man.

People act like cuts are not going to effect people. Juan said that in the Marquez fight he can't see because the blood is in his eye. Fighting Marquez partially blind will give any fighter huge problems.