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    Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
    it debatable.
    for you maybe, but not for me, not as of this moment. if pac beats hatton, maybe. if he beat cotto/pbf, then i myself would exchange my top 2 in my sig.

    achievement-wise, pac already defeated jcc. but not skill-wise though, p2p if both fights in their prime.

    but i respect ur opinion so im open to listen to what ur about to say.

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      Originally posted by alfonso13702 View Post
      English must be your second language.....

      Opps. WRONG AGAIN. How can I expect from ID!OTIC like to guess correctly!!

      I'm just Learning English. bwahahaha.


      My 2nd language is PROGRAMMING Language (C++, Pascal, Basic, Assembly, etc.). Do you want some SCRIPTS? Never mind you're so DUMB anyway.


      AND SURE your 2nd Language is ARF, ARF, ARF (Bwahahahaha)

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        Originally posted by S a m u r a i View Post
        Not according to some info I've seen. The average weight Cotto comes into a fight at is apparently 153lbs. How accurate this is, I'm not sure, but it's not all down to weight anyway. Weight isn't a huge factor, skill is way more important.

        It's funny how many people think Pac is so much smaller than Cotto. They are dead wrong. The difference is not that great.
        They should have fought years ago when Pac was at 130 and Cotto at 140...
        now Cotto has grown much as a natural WW, but again it does not matter.
        Manny can weigh 148-150 at the fight even if Cotto weighs at 154-160+,
        Indeed Cotto will be much stronger and dangerous for Pac, I really don't see Pacman winning but I'll give him a chance at least and see him perform against a prime WW, It's a shame that Dela Hoya--by looking shot, didn't gave Pacman a chance to legitimately prove his greatness.

        Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
        floyd mayweather has been doing it for yrs...of course it is a fair fight. Zab has done it as well..it's fair and cotto isn't too big, just bigger.. The fact u think pacman is too lil and this is unfair comes from the fact manny just don't have the skills to fight someone a lil bigger then him and can box with him.
        Seeing the fight of Zab-Clottey, Zab weighed as a WW and Clottey weighed like a MW... I can see that Zab can win that fight by points, Zab just can't seem to hurt or make Clottey back down, Zab just got frustrated and just decided to quit. Zab lost the fight because he lacked the heart to continue. And we all know that Zab's heart is no way near Pac's.

        Originally posted by alfonso13702 View Post
        If it were not for Manny all you punks would be watching Tennis or some ****, fuc off. I bet you guys didn't even know who Manny was before the Barerra fight, and you didn't even watch boxing.
        The time I... Idolized Roy Jones Jr...Dela Hoya... Tyson... Holyfield.....as I watched them live in cable channels, while Pacquiao was just a nobody, training miles a way far from his home at General Santos Philippines and training with limited boxing gears at an old almost rotten Gym in Manila, training hard with an empty stomach, making fights against fellow Filipino boxers..tough Thais...Indonesians...some Mexicans..Koreans at a local Philippine TV Boxing channel during saturday nights (me and my late uncle regularly watched it)... before Pacquiao got a break as a last minute replacement to face the champ Lehlo Ledwaba and ended up victorious...KO'ed Emmanuel Lucero and after that said he would love to fight Barrera next... well after that I assume you should know the rest. So? did I also proved you wrong?

        Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
        not so sure castro....this hatton fight will tell a lot. I don't believe in pacmans #1 status. He gon have to convince me...and ducking raheem, fighting a shot morales , ducking the champ of 135 in campbell, and beating up a washed up weight drained oscar at a weight oscar ain't seen in over 10 yrs...just ain't selling me.
        Originally posted by cortdawg25 View Post
        i don't think we got 1, i'm waiting on him. Alot of the fighter left or coming up lack something to push them over the top and make them complete fighters, era dominators we don't have right now. Ther is no floyds or roy jones or mike tysons right now imo.
        All fighters lack something... but those shortcomings should not get in the way to say that they were exceptional during their career.

        And also there was not an Emmanuel Dapidran Pacquiao back then! and we boxing fans are fortunate to have a Pacman in our era.

        So you think we don't got a #1? after 30 out of 30 boxing experts voted Pacquiao as #1 unanimously.





        So back to the topic... I suggest you read about the exhibition match of Stanley Ketchel versus Jack Johnson. So all of you may see that the Cotto-Pacquiao match-up is not that a mismatch as it seems with regards to weight or size advantages.
        Last edited by Puntoyhauf; 02-20-2009, 11:32 AM.

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          Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post
          cotto is too big for pac, but in a fair fight pac KOs cotto
          yeah this is true. thats why pac is p4p #1. if pac was just a heavyweight he would easily clean that division.

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            Smh @ the responses in this thread.

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              Man this is hilarious

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                lol its so much fun reading old threads.

                quotes like "no way pac can beat the top 5 WW" just makes me smirk.

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                  Funny coz most of the guys in here claiming Pac would be destroyed are the same ones in denial about Pac being the only one to give Floyd a run for his money.

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                    classic bump ....I thought Cotto would CRUSH Manny...oh man

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                      Love this thread

                      Puts things in perspective

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