Margarito cleared of wrongdoing in july 2008 over Cotto!

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lets stick to boxing bro, we can debate evolution and ID another day...

why you won't read any of my posts unless I have a video tape of what i'm conversating about...

all i'm saying if he get found to be a cheater in Cali....I'd bet Mays boat that it wasnt the first time...and if your gonna be a cheater...why not cheat when you have most to gain...The Cotto fight...Good day sir.

[Don Corleone]

Dude,
At some point you kind of have to pick which side you want to believe. That's true. But choosing to doubt the credibility of the report Jim Lampley issued, like you appear to have done, and then casually dismissing it by saying "journalists are not reliable" well I mean truthfully dude that's not anymore responsible and I might be willing to make a case that it's more irresponsible than believing the report of a respected veteran journalist.

You aren't making sense. Again, you're mixing reporting with investigating. Jim Lampley is highly respected and he's one of my favourite broadcasters on HBO but he's not an investigator. He simply reports what he hears. What he hears may not be true and you fail to understand this. Sure he's a respected veteran journalist but he doesn't know 100% and at this point, that isn't conclusive evidence that Margarito cheated without a doubt.

Would you believe an article written by a respected journalist who said he believed aliens roamed the Earth simply because he's "respected"? You can choose to believe it but you can't determine whether he's telling the truth or not. You don't let a mechanic operate surgery on you simply because he's respected. If medical field is not his expertise than he isn't reliable as evidence...My claim of difference between a reporter and investigator follow a similar method. Unless of course he was a witness. A witness can be crucial at times but they're only one piece of a potential puzzle...

I can tell you why I believe Lampley in two sentences: Lampley has been on HBO, a respected and esteemed member of the broadcast journalist field, for more than two decades. In those two decades he has delivered hundreds of reports, none of which have been proven to be recklessly fraudulent.

There's nothing wrong with that. You can choose to believe him all you want and I wouldn't find anything wrong with that but you can't say he's correct without a shadow of a doubt. Leave some roam for an opposing argument. Let the garbage men handle the garbage and let the reporters do their reporting.

[AztecWanker]

all i'm saying if he get found to be a cheater in Cali....I'd bet Mays boat that it wasnt the first time...and if your gonna be a cheater...why not cheat when you have most to gain...The Cotto fight...Good day sir.

Why would he want to risk cheating in his biggest fight, that is absurd. He was looking forward to a fight that big his entire career, why would he throw it all down the drain if he got caught cheating? *Richard Pryor's voice* Good-Bye!

[pigdestroyer]

Why would he want to risk cheating in his biggest fight, that is absurd. He was looking forward to a fight that big his entire career, why would he throw it all down the drain if he got caught cheating? *Richard Pryor's voice* Good-Bye!

If he DOMINATED Mosley the entire bout, and whooped his ass unbelievably, imagine his NEXT PPV.


We just saw what Mosley would have done to a REGULAR Margarito.

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Why would he want to risk cheating in his biggest fight, that is absurd. He was looking forward to a fight that big his entire career, why would he throw it all down the drain if he got caught cheating? *Richard Pryor's voice* Good-Bye!

OOO I get it...start cheating after youve made it to the top of the heap...Steal Small...not steal big...

Bank robbers trying to get the big payday had it backwards....Make a million Dollars legit...then start Robbing Dollar stores...

I'm not trying to insult your intelligence and I realize that you feel some type of way about whats happening to Margs on these boards...but come on thats Moronic.

[javelin_fangs]

You aren't making sense. Again, you're mixing reporting with investigating. Jim Lampley is highly respected and he's one of my favourite broadcasters on HBO but he's not an investigator. He simply reports what he hears. What he hears may not be true and you fail to understand this. Sure he's a respected veteran journalist but he doesn't know 100% and at this point, that isn't conclusive evidence that Margarito cheated without a doubt.

Would you believe an article written by a respected journalist who said he believed aliens roamed the Earth simply because he's "respected"? You can choose to believe it but you can't determine whether he's telling the truth or not. You don't let a mechanic operate surgery on you simply because he's respected. If medical field is not his expertise than he isn't reliable as evidence...My claim of difference between a reporter and investigator follow a similar method. Unless of course he was a witness. A witness can be crucial at times but they're only one piece of a potential puzzle...



There's nothing wrong with that. You can choose to believe him all you want and I wouldn't find anything wrong with that but you can't say he's correct without a shadow of a doubt. Leave some roam for an opposing argument. Let the garbage men handle the garbage and let the reporters do their reporting.

So, you're saying that journalists do absolutely no investigation? Are you also saying that Lampley merely heard that Margarito was caught with plaster like substance and did not either himself or through an intermediary demand some sort of reliable confirmation that it actually was plaster like substance?

Are you saying that, as a journalist, Lampley is restricted solely to the means of heresay and is unable to verify his reports through even the slightest means of investigation before issuing his reports? I just want to get what you're saying clearly because it seems so ridiculous to me.

Respected journalists become respect through credibility which comes from reliability which is borne out of issuing well researched reports. Journalists who issue unreliable, incredible reports are not well respected. If Lampley were to go on air reporting that plaster-like substance was found in Margarito's gauze and locker one week. Then report on the discovery of alien life forms the next and they were both proven to be completely unfounded then he'd lose his respect and credibility very quickly.

The point I'm getting at is as follows: at a certain point you have to decide if you're doubting the report simply because you're trying to remain "neutral," whatever that means to you or if you're doubting the report because it's incomplete or unsubstantiated. If Lampley had reported that Richardson had accused Margarito of using plaster of Paris, but that nothing had been determined as of yet I'd have taken it with a grain of salt. That wasn't the report.

The report was that Richardson filed a complaint, CSAC agreed, Margarito's people were uncooperative at first, a search was done, more plaster-like substances were found in the locker and an investigation would follow. So, do you doubt the report because you haven't heard from Margarito? Do you doubt the report because you don't want to believe that about Margarito? Do you doubt the report because you feel Lampley just picked last Saturday night as a time to completely make up a provocative story and damn the consequences if it was completely off base? I mean, what do you think it is?

[Sin City]

Im glad to hear this.. now we can continue on with the rematch.

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Nothing in that cleared or convicted him so I'll reserve judgement.

[AztecWanker]

I'm not trying to insult your intelligence and I realize that you feel some type of way about whats happening to Margs on these boards...but come on thats Moronic.

put yourself in his shoes, would you honestly cheat in your biggest fight ???

[Bad~JuJu]

I fail to see how this clears him, assuming of course that what was found in the Mosley bout in fact was illegal. We'll probably never know.