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    #11
    Originally posted by Silencers View Post
    One of the best IMO, he's one of the best at devising a gameplan for his fighters and his instructions in the corner is normally really good, really calm, clear and constructive, very, very good trainer.
    Yeah, I love listening to him in the corner. Sometimes he even comes out with some great lines that make you think.

    "Swim without getting wet."

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      #12
      Originally posted by T-97 View Post
      I know he can't take all the credit. But there's no doubt (IMO) that Richardson has helped them both a lot. Look at Hopkins without Richardson, then with him. To me, he looks a lot better with Richardson. I just think the way he can create a gameplan based on fighters weaknesses is awesome, I never saw Hopkins doing what he did to Pavlik (I expected a much closer fight), or what Shane did to Margarito (I expected Marg to win by UD).
      maybe he's good at training old guys.

      maybe he knows how to pace them the right way in training to get their old bodies in good shape.

      all i know is shane and hop have been world class fighters for a long time.

      if he had trained hopkins against calzaghe or shane against forrest and winky , he would have made no difference.

      i'm sure he's a good trainer but the best? no.

      if i was a pro fighter i'd still go to roach or mcgirt (who is very underrated now.)

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        #13
        Originally posted by The_Bringer View Post
        Yeah, I love listening to him in the corner. Sometimes he even comes out with some great lines that make you think.

        "Swim without getting wet."
        Yeah, some really good lines in that corner.



        A pretty good article on Naazim, written by Bernard Fernandez.

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          #14
          Originally posted by The_Bringer View Post
          Richardson is my favorite trainer out there. His ability to study a fighter's flaws and come up with a gameplan to exploit them is unrivaled right now, IMO.

          Aside from Hopkins, he doesn't train anybody else on the big stage. That's why he's been so underrated for so long, in my view.

          Guys like Freddie Roach and Emmanuel Steward who train multiple guys at a time, somehow end up getting all the glory. But really, I ask you, which of the three would you rather have in your corner?

          Also, you gotta love Richardson always looking out for his fighter. He raised concern about Margarito's illegal wraps, and may have saved Shane from getting really hurt in there. Back in 2001 he did the same thing with Trinidad's wraps for Hopkins.

          Oh, and T, do a search for threads created by me in NSB. Find my Richardson tribute thread, I think you'll enjoy it.
          Good post, bro.

          Yea, Richardson is very underrated because, as you said, he only really trains Hopkins. But just look at what he did for Shane in such a short time, he really does deserve a lot more credit. Roach devised a great plan for Pac against DLH, but apart from that he's no where near as good as Richardson IMO. And Steward, McGirt...hell naw. Richardson is way better than those guys..

          I'll take a look.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
            maybe he's good at training old guys.

            maybe he knows how to pace them the right way in training to get their old bodies in good shape.

            all i know is shane and hop have been world class fighters for a long time.

            if he had trained hopkins against calzaghe or shane against forrest and winky , he would have made no difference.

            i'm sure he's a good trainer but the best? no.

            if i was a pro fighter i'd still go to roach or mcgirt (who is very underrated now.)
            what and have him charging into the damn ring as soon as you get hit?

            mcgirt is an ok trainer, but he is seriously over the top with stopping fights

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              #16
              Originally posted by Silencers View Post
              Yeah, some really good lines in that corner.



              A pretty good article on Naazim, written by Bernard Fernandez.
              Thanks for the link, I'm reading it right now.

              Good post, bro.

              Yea, Richardson is very underrated because, as you said, he only really trains Hopkins. But just look at what he did for Shane in such a short time, he really does deserve a lot more credit. Roach devised a great plan for Pac against DLH, but apart from that he's no where near as good as Richardson IMO. And Steward, McGirt...hell naw. Richardson is way better than those guys..
              McGirt is horrible. Roach is a bit overrated as well, a lot of the guys he trained were already great by the time he got a hold of them. Kinda like Emmanuel Steward.

              You could see Naazim's hand in Mosley last night. Shane was throwing the right hand a lot more than usual. He actually went to the body consistently. AND he worked the jab better than he ever has in his entire career.

              All credit to Mosley for taking Margarito out, but Naazim's master craftsmanship deserves respect as well.

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                #17
                Originally posted by EuroBoxing39 View Post
                what and have him charging into the damn ring as soon as you get hit?

                mcgirt is an ok trainer, but he is seriously over the top with stopping fights
                i liked buddy.

                people forget at one time a lot of his fighters were doing well.

                as far as the stopping fights early. some of it is debatable but it's not like his fighters were gonna win anyway.

                his last disputable stoppage was paulie right? what was paulie gonna do in a few more rounds? he hadn't done **** the entire fight. he was taking a beating.

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                  #18
                  Kenny Weldon told me years ago that I had the potential to be a great coach, but I never would be because I love my fighters too much. I didn’t understand what he meant then, but I think I do now.
                  -Naazim Richardson

                  That's a hell of an article Silencers links us up to in this thread, if you guys haven't read it yet, I suggest you do.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Left Hook Tua View Post
                    i liked buddy.

                    people forget at one time a lot of his fighters were doing well.

                    as far as the stopping fights early. some of it is debatable but it's not like his fighters were gonna win anyway.

                    his last disputable stoppage was paulie right? what was paulie gonna do in a few more rounds? he hadn't done **** the entire fight. he was taking a beating.
                    The one thing I do like about McGirt is his willingness to stop fights. He won't allow his fighters to take unnessasary punishment. Although, I think that ****m would stop fights too if his fighter was taking too much. However, he's never been in that situation.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by The_Bringer View Post
                      -Naazim Richardson

                      That's a hell of an article Silencers links us up to in this thread, if you guys haven't read it yet, I suggest you do.
                      I'm chillin' with a friend just now, so i'll have to check it out later. I'll bump this up when i've read it

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