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Originally posted by Carlisle View PostIf you want to prove you are the best then fight a threat. David Haye, Abraham, Chad Dawson or the winner of Williams and Winky Wright for your farewell fight.
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Originally posted by Ravens Fan View PostI don't understand all the Calzaghe haters. They claim that all he has done is beat up old men. But, when the Pacman beats a fighter who has lost as many fights as he has won since 1999 and is way past his prime and was overrated to begin with, yes I believe Oscar is and was overrated. Now it seems the Pacman can do no wrong and many seem to think he can even walk on water after beating one of the most hyped fighters in my life time.
PAC moved up alot of weight, whilst DLH moved down, but DLH was expected to KO Pac.
Whereas Calzaghe v Hopkins and Calzaghe v RJJ, Calzaghe the favorite.
Another reaso is Pac - DLH oly happened since their both accomplished. Where as Hopkins and RJJ were accomplished, Calzaghe only held 1 belt. It would be a nothing fight.
The bouts only went ahead when Calzaghe's "Fear of flying" was suddenly cured when Hopkins and RJJ were about to retire
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Originally posted by minion View PostSure he got KTFO, but he got alot more respect. Calzaghe has never ever been Prime v Prime against a "Boxing Legend".
Hopkins' only prime vs. prime win against a genuine boxing legend was Trinidad, but that is never held against him (you can't count DLH, because he wasn't a true middleweight). That's despite the fact that Hopkins could have fought a rematch with Jones when Jones was still in his prime and he pulled out of those negotiations over money as well.
Calzaghe's best fight was against Kessler, who was in his prime. To a large extent he has always been a victim of circumstance in that very few legends have ever fought at his weight, and those who have were mostly just passing through to light-heavyweight and only fought at his weight for one or two fights.
Having said that, I agree that he could possibly have taken bigger fights than he did at times, by calling out the other belt-holders more often than he did, instead of just defending his WBO title. But he did defeat several of the other belt-holders immediately after they had lost their belts when they were hungry to re-establish themselves by beating him, e.g. Byron Mitchell, Charles Brewer.
I also agree that he should have been more willing to travel earlier in his career, regardless of his fear of flying.Last edited by Dave Rado; 01-11-2009, 05:50 PM.
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Originally posted by ironjab View PostApparently, everyone in the U.K. who isn't Calzaghe, sucks to Calzaghe.
The Ring's report on the Jones fight includes the following statement:
"Even if no single fight leaps to the fore, Calzaghe's body of work, with Jones the cherry on the top, gives Calzaghe arguably the best resum?in boxing. No fighter currently rated by The Ring has beaten two number-one rated fighters in two separate weight classes. Calzaghe has in Hopkins and Mikkel Kessler."
Are you going to accuse The Ring of "sucking to Calzaghe" as well?
Then in the same issue of The Ring, in their "Digging Deep" column, they wrote:"Calzaghe demonstrated what I'm talking about when HBO pay per view showed a terrific slow-motion shot of him getting tagged by a face-crunching tornado of an uppercut from Roy Jones. It momentarily rearranged Calzaghe's face into something resembling one of those Pekingese pooches whose features look like they've been squeezed in a vice. Being on the wrong end of a shot like that could easily alter a person's life, and not for the better.
"Fighters with great chins can survive even perfect, explosive punches like that one, so it wasn't terribly surprising that Calzaghe weathered the storm, just as Jones weathered his own storms. What distinguished Calzaghe was his surreal reaction to the beastly shot. The slow-motion camera caught him already launching a counter-punch (a right hook) even as his contorted face was still absorbing horrific damage. Insane.
"Such deep seated ferocity resides inside a person's core being. It can't be taught, nor easily found. Add breathtaking talent and the fisticator soars into that slim patch of territory inhabited by the all-time greats. Calzaghe would have earned a place there anyway, but the beautiful camera work leaves doubters with no ground to stand on."
But I forgot - The Ring's a UK ****zine, isn't it.Last edited by Dave Rado; 01-11-2009, 05:11 PM.
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Originally posted by boxasmash View Posti actually feel sorry for daggum and bsrizpac, they spend their life talking about calzaghe. i bet if calzaghe walked past them they would be the first ones running up to him asking for an autograph.
it's sweet really. internet tough guys.
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Ring ****zine is owned by Oscar del la Hoya
The Ring ****zine is not a British publication it is actually owned by none other then the Golden Boy himself Oscar del la Hoya.
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Originally posted by Dave Rado View Post
He called both out frequently when they were in their prime but they didn't want to know. Jones is on record as saying he didn't want to take the risk.Hopkins almost signed a deal, and then at the last minute asked for his share of the purse to be doubled. How can you blame Calzaghe for that? Ottke also didn't want to fight him.
Hopkins' only prime vs. prime win against a genuine boxing legend was Trinidad, but that is never held against him (you can't count DLH, because he wasn't a true middleweight).
Calzaghe's best fight was against Kessler, who was in his prime. To a large extent he has always been a victim of circumstance in that very few legends have ever fought at his weight, and those who have were mostly just passing through to light-heavyweight and only fought at his weight for one or two fights.
Having said that, I agree that he could possibly have taken bigger fights than he did at times, by calling out the other belt-holders more often than he did, instead of just defending his WBO title. But he did defeat several of the other belt-holders immediately after they had lost their belts when they were hungry to re-establish themselves by beating him, e.g. Byron Mitchell, Charles Brewer.
I also agree that he should have been more willing to travel earlier in his career, regardless of his fear of flying.
See THIS is why people hate Joe Calzaghe. His ignorant know-nothing ball sucking brigade. Prove your lies fanboy.
Here's a quote from joe about Roy:
2001
"I could probably give Jones a tough fight, probably the best fight he's ever had," said Calzaghe. "But I know my capabilities and unless I got paid the crown ***els I wouldn't want to risk it."
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