The 7 Reason's MAYWEATHER never Lost or Never Will..!!!

[Fenom]

1. joel casamayor

2. acelino freitas

3. paul spadafora

4. kostya tszyu

5. miguel cotto

6. antonio margarito

7. shane mosley

u think if Floyd fought and beat all of them he'd down as the greatest or top 3?

just a thought

[Kendo]

Floyd Mayweather : The ‘Sweet Science’
Steve Coleman

For me what makes boxing the ‘Sweet Science’ is not two guys just slugging it out in a 'see who falls first' scenario. It is seeing some real skill and artistry in the ring.

In Boxing defense is not often given the credit it deserves and Floyd's defense is one of the best that I have ever seen. The only other boxers whose defense is similar in some respects is James Toney.

1. Mayweather's defense


Key to Mayweather's defense is the fact that he is always moving as well as the rhythm,speed and smoothness of his movements, this is what makes this defense effective.

All the while his opponent is punching.
Floyd is

• rolling,
• slipping,
• pivoting at the waist,
• feinting,
• bobbing and weaving,
• constantly displaying various ‘modes’ of movement .

The rhythm of the rolling is very interesting because most opponents alternate their punches in a very predictable way, only occasionally doubling up with the same hand in the middle of flurries.


When his body is turned to his right Floyd's left shoulder usually rolls up high to deflect punches and sometimes additionally he uses his left arm to deflect punches, it depends on the angle of the punch. Shots to this left side of his body are usually deflected upward and/or in front of him. When Mayweather's body is turned to the left his right hand is held up high with his elbow tucked in, so these shots get blocked also, a few well placed body shots can get in but Floyd is already rolling after the first punch connects.

On the rare occasion where a fighter does double up with the same hand Floyd usually catches this and improvises by adjusting his rhythm with a series of 'changes of direction' in his rolling. The thing to notice is the timing, all fighters have a rhythm to their movements which can be timed by an experienced opponent after several rounds of boxing.
2.Two different overall rhythmic forms:

1. the rhythm of offensive motion
2. the rhythm of defensive motion.

There are usually two different overall rhythmic forms, what I call the set-up rhythm
(preparing to punch or waiting to counterpunch, depending on the style of the boxer)
the rhythm of offensive motion and the rhythm of defensive motion.

However Floyd, like many great boxers varies these rhythms in subtle ways that are difficult for opponents to time, and he can seamlessly flow from one rhythmic form to the next without any break in the forms. Usually the opponent is not even aware that the transition has occurred until it is too late.


3.The name of the game is not aggressiveness, it is 'effective aggressiveness'.

Most of Floyd's Opponents punches get deflected and do not do much damage. Also use up a lot of energy in the process.
It is tiring and frustrating to punch at a target that constantly making you miss.

What constantly surprises me is the ignorance of the HBO commentators Jim Lampley,and Larry Merchant They kept talking about that Floyd should stay off the ropes. Now these HBO cats have seen so many fights they should know certain techniques by now.

4.Floyd Rest on The Ropes:

First of all Floyd get's hit with very few punches when he is on the ropes. Many times during Floyd's fights Floyd would rest while letting His Opponents flail away at him, this is a calculated ploy that only works because of the nature of Floyd's defensive skills.

Sometimes Floyd lays on the ropes, sometimes he stands in the middle of the ring right in front of his opponent, in neither case opponents rarely actually connects with thier punches in significant numbers.

Floyd's sense of the flow of a fight is fantastic.

5.Staying 'in the pocket',

When Floyd stands 'in the pocket', meaning that Mayweather was so close to His Opponent that they can not get the proper leverage on their punches.
There is an optimum distance that most fighters need to execute effectively.



6.The Science of Floyd's Offense

Offensively Floyd, 'place' his shots, he is not just wasting energy throwing punches. Even when he is in these defensive stances he is looking for well placed shots in the middle of the other boxer's flurries Notice that his eyes are wide open and they are seeing everything that is happening.
With many other top fighters this is not the case.

It is a natural reflex to close your eyes when an object is coming at your face and great boxers train to counter this tendency.

In the Joel Casamayor vs. Diego Corrales fight both boxers had defensive lapses while concentrating on offensive and there were moments when both fighters closed their eyes while punching.

Shane Mosley also closed his eyes a lot and flinched when Vernon Forrest had him against the ropes.

7.The Science of Movement

Changes of speed and direction, pivoting and spinning, dipping, rocking, backpedaling, sidestepping, feinting, weaving, side-slipping, angles––all are part of a repertoire of constantly shifting balancing mannerisms designed to alter the perspective of the observer, a kind of slick motion geometry. I call these various types of counterbalancing movement techniques ‘modalities of rhythm’.

This tradition has always been passed down from master to student mainly through experiencing the ‘feel’ of these modalities as well as using analogy to pass on information. However it is the insights that are gained through these experiences and the ability to execute that creates masters.


Floyd Mayweather Has Mastered The ‘Sweet Science’

While i dislike PBF he is one of the best fighters in boxing right now. He has great skills and goes out and wins fights that some of us think he wont. I do think he lost the JLC fight. while he was on the ropes resting JLC was firing away and landing on him. I think that was the only fight where PBF was beat up in and look hurt and very tired. I also thought the the DLH fight was a draw. I have watched both those fights a few times and cant give PBF the fight. He also looked great at times against DLH but also looked bad. I mean if DLH throws his jab more he wins the fight. The frist hald of the fight showed that. But in any case i cant see him being Manny. Alot of us thought the Hattons sytle was going to be to much for PBF with his straight forward in your face fighting style. But Manny is faster and stronger. PBF comes out of retirement than he should not fight Manny. It would doom him. Take on Hatton just stay away from Manny.

[Left Hook Tua]

u think if Floyd fought and beat all of them he'd down as the greatest or top 3?

just a thought

don't know about top 3......but pretty high on the list.

he would have cleaned up 5 divisions.

[Ishy Aytan]

he's fought a lot of slow guys......gatti , baldomir , corrales , chavez , castillo......

tbh the only fast fighter i remember him fight was zab and zab gave him some problems at first......

Yep, before he got beat and tried cheating... Zabs was the fastest guy Floyd could have faced and he dealt with it. Other than Zab, only Pacquiao springs to mind.

[nathan_nall]

This article was very well written. I agree with everything stated, but there is an 8 and a 9 that have proven just as invaluable in his flawless record.

8. Al Haymond

Al Haymond is a master at picking opponents that meet two criteria: 1) Will put up a good fight against Mayweather, and 2) Can not possibly beat Mayweather

9. Leonard Ellerbe

For many of the same reasons as Haymond, only Leo takes it a step further by crafting a media scene that gives the appearance that "The fight could honestly go either way!"

If 8 and 9 disappear, look for Mayweather to step in against someone like Paul Williams, Cotto, or Margarito. If Al and Loenard remain a part of the equation... Look for Mayweather to fight a rematch with either Hatton, De La Hoya, or Big Show!

[hookoutofhell]

i dont think anyone denies the lad has got mad skillz its just that he doesn't seem to want to push himself like other fighters likeDLH or RJJ did.

[Ishy Aytan]

i dont think anyone denies the lad has got mad skillz its just that he doesn't seem to want to push himself like other fighters likeDLH or RJJ did.

But De La Hoya and Roy Jones will be remembered for losing and not quitting the sport sooner. Imagine if RJJ quit boxing after the first Tarver match... he'd go down as the best of our generation no doubt.

[RisAri0]

I'm sure his skills and talent alone can defeat any opponent at any given time. I just wish he can prove it against worthy competition. I'm just glad that him and Pac will be getting it on this year.

[nathan_nall]

But De La Hoya and Roy Jones will be remembered for losing and not quitting the sport sooner. Imagine if RJJ quit boxing after the first Tarver match... he'd go down as the best of our generation no doubt.

People want to watch fighters carry themselves on and on and on... pushing themselves to the limit over and over and over... until they lose. Well, after a loss, its too late to claim a flawless record. I have no problem with Floyd going out on top and undefeated. The same thing for Calzaghe.

[Ishy Aytan]

People want to watch fighters carry themselves on and on and on... pushing themselves to the limit over and over and over... until they lose. Well, after a loss, its too late to claim a flawless record. I have no problem with Floyd going out on top and undefeated. The same thing for Calzaghe.

The difference is if Calzaghe retired undefeated, there will still be lots of question marks over his career. Floyd fought the prime fighters and the only guy he really should have faced was Margarito. Other than him i cant think of anyone else.

If Jones retired after the 1st Tarver match, he'd go down as the best of our generation, but he carried on after his peak and it still hangs over his legacy now.