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    #21
    Originally posted by DWiens421 View Post
    The same way Bob Arum says that Floyd should fight Margarito because he's a coward?

    Bob Arum's words has just as much significance to who fights who for the belt...

    If a TR fighter has the Ring belt, then what does GBP accomplish by saying their dudes should fight a GBP fighter? Nothing, unless the TR fighter takes the bait.
    Bob Arum is not the editor of Ring ****zine, that is the primary difference. Arum is acting like a promoter.

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      #22
      Originally posted by El Pollo Malo View Post
      Bob Arum is not the editor of Ring ****zine, that is the primary difference. Arum is acting like a promoter.
      But even so, I can't see a single way the Ring belt works that allows anything Oscar says about who his fighters should fight influencing who has the belt.

      Like I said, even before GBP had the ****zine, were they going to instruct their fighters to fight TR guys that they would likely lose to? No. Were they going to call out TR guys to fight their fighters even before they had the belt? Yes, but it doesn't make any more difference now than it did then.

      The way the belt works means that the conflict of interest can never cause any harm to the championship. There is not enough power of The Ring to stop fighters from getting their belt, even if they don't want them to.

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        #23
        Originally posted by DWiens421 View Post
        But even so, I can't see a single way the Ring belt works that allows anything Oscar says about who his fighters should fight influencing who has the belt.

        Like I said, even before GBP had the ****zine, were they going to instruct their fighters to fight TR guys that they would likely lose to? No. Were they going to call out TR guys to fight their fighters even before they had the belt? Yes, but it doesn't make any more difference now than it did then.

        The way the belt works means that the conflict of interest can never cause any harm to the championship. There is not enough power of The Ring to stop fighters from getting their belt, even if they don't want them to.
        By acknowledging any conflict of interest, you are therefore agreeing that The Ring's integrity is compromised by it's ownership.

        Imagine this scenario:

        Prosecutor: "I move that Sammy the Slasher's cousin be removed from the jury."

        Lawyer: "I object, they ain't even cool like that! Tommy hasn't even been to Sammy's mom's house in forever! So there is no conflict that would compromise the jury's integrity."

        Judge: "Over-ruled."

        Conflict is conflict, there is no way to circumvent the conflict.

        If one of Golden Boy's fighters are charged with murder, and the evidence is overwhelming, will The Ring report on the story and give a fair assessment of the situation?

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          #24
          What's up with bringing Oscar's name in the topic about the Ring belt? They've only owned it for about a year. How about the years it was owned by somebody else?

          Ring belt ---->100 years of existence, non-corrupt, no sanctioning fees, honorable belt and history.

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            #25
            Originally posted by El Pollo Malo View Post
            By acknowledging any conflict of interest, you are therefore agreeing that The Ring's integrity is compromised by it's ownership.

            Imagine this scenario:

            Prosecutor: "I move that Sammy the Slasher's cousin be removed from the jury."

            Lawyer: "I object, they ain't even cool like that! Tommy hasn't even been to Sammy's mom's house in forever! So there is no conflict that would compromise the jury's integrity."

            Judge: "Over-ruled."

            Conflict is conflict, there is no way to circumvent the conflict.

            If one of Golden Boy's fighters are charged with murder, and the evidence is overwhelming, will The Ring report on the story and give a fair assessment of the situation?
            Someone on a jury has the power to influence what happens to the person in question.

            GBP has no power to stop The Ring belt changing hands or stripping a fighter for not taking fights. They don't collect any money for sanctioning... Basically their name is attached to it and that is it.

            It is more comparable to put Sammy the Slasher's cousin in the audience, because he would be doing what GBP is doing... observing, and commenting, but not having power to influence anything.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR View Post
              Why most people in boxing gives more credit to the ring belts than the other belts?
              I mean the ring is owned by Golden Boy Promotions, and most of their titles are vacated and the ones they put in fights for, either are golden boy fighters or the guy who draws more in the division and not the actual deserving fighter!!!!!!

              What do you guys think?
              ring belt lost its credibility once gbp took over ownership.

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