Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Juan Diaz Getting Closer

[Motofan]

JMM by KO. Im excited for this one.

[daggum]

Diaz is a tough opponent, Much more tough than David Diaz

yea i know but people went god damn ape **** cause pac was able to beat a journeymen named david diaz while marquez chooses to fight tough competition.

[MakeDamnSure]

yea i know but people went god damn ape **** cause pac was able to beat a journeymen named david diaz while marquez chooses to fight tough competition.

Like Rocky Juarez, washed up Barrera and inactive shot fighter Casamayor?

At least he didn't have to move up 3 divisions and fight a giant and fight 140 linear champ Hatton..

[BennyST]

He was cut during that fight. Baby Bull would beat Campbell in a rematch.

He was cut by a punch from Campbell. Campbell won that fight straight up by beating Diaz at his own game. The cut didn't make him lose, and even if it did, it was still from a Campbell punch.

Anyway, while I would rather see Marquez face Campbell and have a big unification fight, a fight against Diaz could be fantastic. I think Marquez will have a very hard time with Diaz. He is very strong and throws non stop, and with Marquez starting to show his age it won't help at all.

He may be able to out-box him and use his counter punching but he will also have to get in and fight at some point, much like Campbell did against Diaz. It will be a good, hard fight that could go either way. Hopefully, if Marquez wins this and Campbell beats Funeka, it would make the follow up fight definite. Marquez vs Campbell would be huge and one of the best fights that could be made today. If Marquez could beat Diaz and Campbell that would be one hell of a way to top off a mighty fine career from one of the best boxers of this generation.

[BennyST]

Like Rocky Juarez, washed up Barrera and inactive shot fight Casamayor?

Inactive? The guy had just fought and KO'd Katsidis. He had been on a five fight win streak, and did not look shot at all. He actually looked damn good. He was not inactive at all, and was actually very active. Didn't Pac fight Barerra right after Marquez beat him?

Man, you are sad.

[MakeDamnSure]

Inactive? The guy had just fought and KO'd Katsidis. He had been on a five fight win streak, and did not look shot at all. He actually looked damn good. He was not inactive at all, and was actually very active. Didn't Pac fight Barerra right after Marquez beat him?

Man, you are sad.

Wow you are an idiot.. A crybaby.. Taking ROCKY JUAREZ? Pac already beat Barrera in 2003.. Active Casamayor? Did Sta. Cruz Beat his ass for 12 straight rounds?

[BennyST]

Wow you are an idiot.. A crybaby.. Taking ROCKY JUAREZ? Pac already beat Barrera in 2003.. Active Casamayor? Did Sta. Cruz Beat his ass for 12 straight rounds?

Why would he fight him again then, and after Marquez had just beaten him up? Sure, Santa Cruz beat him but that still shows that he was an active fighter who had come back to form and KO'd one of the best lightweight prospects out there.

See, you're just looking at this from the wrong perspective. Pointlessly bagging Marquez for taking on Barerra, Juarez or Casamayor but loving Pac for doing the same thing is a little foolish don't you think? I think both fighters are great, and both are also taking good, hard fights. The fact Casa won a BS decision against Cruz doesn't change the fact that he had not lost in a long time and came back from that dodgy decision with a huge win over a young undefeated prospect. He was considered the the true lightweight champ and Marquez beat him brilliantly. Having one bad fight after beating Corrales, Pearson and coming back to form beating Katsidis is better than losing the majority of your fights and having only fought part time for about four years. I don't see what you're whining about to be honest. He was much more live than Oscar was.

Explain to me the difference in you saying that Marquez is **** for taking on Casa because he was supposedly old, inactive and shot, when, for a fact, he hadn't actually lost a fight in four years, apart from the BS decision against Cruz and had won his recent most recent fights brilliantly by KO, whereas the guy you keep propping up fought someone who had lost the majority of his last 6 fights and had only fought three times in the last four years? How is it that you can say one is bad but not the other?

Unlike you, I'm just not blinded.

[JAS_JAS]

i think juan diaz will beat jmm, for some reason age will be a factor in this one. jmm i think cannot fight in the inside like juan diaz. marquez style gives the pacman problems but i think it only affects the pacman, other fighters would beat him, example chris john. thats y he is so persistent in pursuing the pacman, his legacy is built on fighting pacquiao. no one knew him except for some mexicans before the pac fight.

[MakeDamnSure]

Why would he fight him again then, and after Marquez had just beaten him up? Sure, Santa Cruz beat him but that still shows that he was an active fighter who had come back to form and KO'd one of the best lightweight prospects out there.

See, you're just looking at this from the wrong perspective. Pointlessly bagging Marquez for taking on Barerra, Juarez or Casamayor but loving Pac for doing the same thing is a little foolish don't you think? I think both fighters are great, and both are also taking good, hard fights. The fact Casa won a BS decision against Cruz doesn't change the fact that he had not lost in a long time and came back from that dodgy decision with a huge win over a young undefeated prospect. He was considered the the true lightweight champ and Marquez beat him brilliantly. Having one bad fight after beating Corrales, Pearson and coming back to form beating Katsidis is better than losing the majority of your fights and having only fought part time for about four years. I don't see what you're whining about to be honest. He was much more live than Oscar was.

Explain to me the difference in you saying that Marquez is **** for taking on Casa because he was supposedly old, inactive and shot, when, for a fact, he hadn't actually lost a fight in four years, apart from the BS decision against Cruz and had won his recent most recent fights brilliantly by KO, whereas the guy you keep propping up fought someone who had lost the majority of his last 6 fights and had only fought three times in the last four years? How is it that you can say one is bad but not the other?

Unlike you, I'm just not blinded.

The Sta.Cruz - Casamyor was was a complete robbery.. Even the New York filed a case because the decision was out of proportion.. Sta. Cruz won all 12 rounds and beat Casmaayor's ass easily.. Katsidis a great prospect? Who the heck did he beat? Watch his fight against Amonsot! Pacquiao fought a linear 2003 champ Barrera and don't forget that.. What did Marquez do? fighting washed fighters and Rocky Juarez? LOL Did Barrera schooled him twice already? Pacquiao's last 3 fights De La Hoya ( Massive Underdog), Diaz and Marquez.. In case you didn't know, Casamayor-Marquez was a draw before the KO..

He was one true LW champ in the past.. Then Sta. Cruz should be the champ then.. I forgot instead of a rematch with Pac and a Fight with Morales, I go to Indonesia for 30k dollars.

[Clegg]

Like Rocky Juarez, washed up Barrera and inactive shot fighter Casamayor?

At least he didn't have to move up 3 divisions and fight a giant and fight 140 linear champ Hatton..

Pac didn't have to do anything. He chose to fight Diaz and then DLH. I would've preferred to see him fight JMM for a third time, but Pac's level of opposition has been high, so I won't complain. The exact same thing is true of Marquez however, as you'd accept if you had a little more objectivity.

I'm not sure why you mention Hatton, last I checked, Pac hadn't even signed to fight him, let alone actually beaten him.

JMM stepped up in weight to challenge Barrera. Pac stepped up in weight to fight David Diaz. I know which impressed me more, but whatever...

If we're talking about shot fighters and inactivity, Pac's last opponent matches that description just as well as Casamayor does, if not better. The JMM fight was Casamayor's third in the space of 10 months.

Oh and by the way, when are you going to pay people all those points that you owe them? And when are you going to stop using your Sonic Flood alt to troll NSB with ******ed anti-Mexican threads?