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    #11
    Originally posted by larryx View Post
    I dont think people say he's better..but the first fight pacman got 3 knockdowns in round 1 and it was a draw..so that means the next 11 round jmm kicked his ass..the second fight was a split decison but once again marguez was knocked down-meaning he out boxed pacman..so in other words pacman is the stronger fighter but jmm is clearly the better boxer..doesnt make jmm better..but people have an arguement..pacman owes him a 3rd fight
    Pacman owes him ****. If Pac beats him in a rubbermatch, xcaret here would say 36-year old Marquez is shot. Marquez should make his own name by fighting Guzman or go up a division and fight Hatton, he's been piggybacking on Pacman's accomplishments for quite a while now..shooo.

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      #12
      Originally posted by xcaret View Post
      what a ******, anyone with some boxing knowledge would know that Marquez never had the opportunity to face top caliber fighters in his prime..
      So?

      Who has he beaten? ANSWER!

      Pac beat Erik Morales and Barrera BEFORE his prime.

      Manny is in his prime NOW. So that makes him waaay better than a prime Marquez.

      A prime not weight drained Pac PWNS Marquez in round 3...finishing off where he last started.


      Hey Xcaret. If Pac and JMM fight again and JMM loses will you make excuses that he was just old and shot?

      lol...I thought so.

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        #13
        Originally posted by badboypeenoy View Post
        pacman owes him ****. If pac beats him in a rubbermatch, xcaret here would say 36-year old marquez is shot. Marquez should make his own name by fighting guzman or go up a division and fight hatton, he's been piggybacking on pacman's accomplishments for quite a while now..shooo. :d
        dont be biased a draw,and a split decison doesnt answer anything..if it were the other way around you'd want pac to get a third fight..be honest..and who cares what xcaret says????????and jmm is the lineal champ at 135..i think thats making a name 4 himself ey???

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          #14
          Marquez is NOT better than Manny Pacquiao.

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            #15
            you dumb idiotic pac nuthuggers, all your doing is discrediting pacquiaos victories.. lmfao.

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              #16
              Originally posted by xcaret View Post
              what a ******, anyone with some boxing knowledge would know that Marquez never had the opportunity to face top caliber fighters in his prime..
              i hate to do this but i have to agree with this misunderstood little boy

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                #17
                Originally posted by xcaret View Post
                you dumb idiotic pac nuthuggers, all your doing is discrediting pacquiaos victories.. lmfao.
                No...when have we done that in this thread?

                I'm discrediting JMM not Pac.

                YOU discredit Pac making YOU discredit JMM because Pac > JMM

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                  #18
                  There is no comparison between the two when it comes to their records. During his prime Marquez had piss poor management, like Joe Calzaghe type management, that kept him from ever being able to shine the way he should have.

                  When it comes to skills, I think Marquez is overall the better fighter : I.E.- More skills. He's much more gifted and technically sound than Pacquiao, he does nearly everything better. And the only thing that's cost him against Pacquiao has been his balls and willingness to scrap, because Pac's power and speed always put him on the deck.

                  But in terms of actual skill, Marquez has the edge IMO, and I know I'm not alone in thinking this. Back when they first fought in what? 04? He schooled Pacquiao, almost embarassed him. Granted Pac was only a lefty then, and has improved a lot since that fight.

                  Anyways, I think skill wise Marquez is the better fighter. But Pac has the better record.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by larryx View Post
                    dont be biased a draw,and a split decison doesnt answer anything..if it were the other way around you'd want pac to get a third fight..be honest..and who cares what xcaret says????????and jmm is the lineal champ at 135..i think thats making a name 4 himself ey???
                    I'd rather see Pac vs. Hatton or Mayweather or ever Cotto. Pacman vs. Marquez is exciting as hell, no doubt because they're each other's perfect foil and nobody knows what will happen but by the time Pacman's finished fighting Hatton, Mayweather or even Mosley, Marquez would be shot. Marquez should focus on other fighters to build his claim as #2 P4P because honestly, Calslappy's outperforming JMM in the old-timer beatdown department. I suggest JMM fight Guzman, that would be awesome.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by hotshoes View Post
                      i hate to do this but i have to agree with this misunderstood little boy
                      well... I'd agree that Marquez didn't get his shot at facing top calibre opponents in his prime... But could a prime Marquez beat De La Hoya the way Pac just did?

                      Marquez doesn't have enough head movement to get past Oscars jab and Marquez lost to a double weight drained Pacquiao.

                      And got a draw from a pre-prime Pacquiao (While JMM was in his prime)

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