De La Hoya is NOT done!!!

[Scott9945]

No doubt Oscar can find opponents he can still beat, but as a top level fighter he is finished. You have to factor in the effects this beating will take on him physically and psychologically.

[CottoIsBackBtch]

I agree.. He could always fight a 16 yr old girl.

[solo20]

to make a long post short Oscar is done he got beat by Pac

[Pullcounter]

if dlh is brave he'll fight money marg, but I don't even know if money marg will want to taint himself w/ dlh anymore

[ztrac79]

I agree.. He could always fight a 16 yr old girl.

[holden007]

Walk away now DLH. Many of us believed you would have smoked Pacman..... it was you that got smoked. WOW!

[Soda Popinski]

He's done, guys.

Forget the Manny fight and just remember how he looked against Forbes. And then try to remember that Freddie Roach said he KNEW after that fight that "Oscar can't pull the trigger anymore."

I wouldn't say he looked excessively bad against Forbes. I mean Forbes has never even been knocked DOWN in his entire career, let alone stopped, which is a very impressive accomplishment for a journeyman. But if Roach sees it, then who are we to argue?? I'll never doubt that man again. I do also feel that sadly, DLH's best days are behind him.

[Mayfeather]

Yeah I cant see DLH beating any top boxers now that Pac destroyed him. It is sad that he lost the way he did though

[Franko]

Ok fellas before you jump all over me and call me an idoit read the entire post. I saw the fight and yes I was amazed at how badily Oscar got beat. I was thinking we were going to see a good fight competitive and if anyone was going to be handing out punishment it would be De la Hoya handing out more then he was taking. But Manny showed us that speed is the main factor in boxing. If you have the advantage with hands speed and you carry some power you can dominate just about anybody no matter what the weight class.

manny didn't just look faster but he looked light years faster on Saturday night. I kept telling myself I was dreaming I even pinched myself to make sure I was awake. I had to stand up after the 6th round and turn away from the TV because I couldn't belive what I was seeing. It was like Manny almost didn't want to finish him he would pull back off the ropes and waive Oscar in. Like as if he was asking Oscar bring the fight to me. Many think that if Oscar had fought Cotto or Marg they would have disposed of Oscar just as easily. I beg to differ and I will tell you why.

Oscar main issue Saturday night was speed. Lightening fast greasy speed just like Mickey said in Rocky II. If you can catch this chicken you can catch Creed. Well I bet Nacho didn't have Oscar chaing any chickens during his trainin camp. Point is Marg is a come forward face first puncher who doesn't punch that hard but throws alot of punches. Oscar could out box Marg for a few rounds and put up more of a fight then he showed us this past Saturday. Heck he might even be able to bet marg if he got Marg to agree to fight him at 154. marg would nver bounce on his feet and jump around the ring on his way in like PACMAN did. marg would be getting tagged with Oscars jab. End point is although I think marg would beat Oscar he would have had more a fight on his nads then PACMAN did.

Cotto same thought here is not as fast as PACMAN. Doesnt not move around as much on his way in. Don't think Oscar could out box him as easily as Marg but I think he would be easier to hit then PAC was Saturday ngiht.All in all I think it would have been a more competitive fight than we saw Saturday when the so Called Dream Match took place ...More like Oscar's Night mare.....Lefty

I understand what you're saying here, but when a fighter is in the twighlight of his career and he takes a systematic beating like the one De La Hoya did against Pacquaio then the natural reaction is to state that he should retire, because no one wants to see a fighter take a beating like that. However, there are obvious factors to consider i.e. How did De La Hoya boil down to the weight? Was he taking anything to aid the weight loss? Why did he not put more weight back on after the weigh in?
In my opinion this was a 'no win situation' fight for De La Hoya, and other than the $$$$ you wouldn't qualify De La Hoya as being desperate for i couldn't understand why the fight was made, especially considering that there could have been other fights made at more of a natural weight for De La Hoya. My reasoning behind this is that had De La Hoya beat Pacquiao then he would not have received any real credit for doing so because people would have said that Manny was too small, and De La Hoya should have faced a fighter who didn't have to jump two weight divisions... and so on.

People also said that the beating De La Hoya took reminded them of the beating Ali suffered at the hands of Larry Holmes, but in my opinion it was more shocking because no one expected Ali to beat Holmes (unless their heads were in the clouds) and many didn't want the fight to happen. The signs of decline were obvious in Ali back then and he hadn't fought for something like 2-3 years (i think) when he fought Larry Holmes who was the best young heavyweight in the world at the time. The signs of decline haven't been as glaringly obvious in De La Hoya and he's fought once a year since 2006 which included the excellent performance against Mayorga, the split decision loss to Mayweather Jnr (which many claim De La Hoya should have won), and the laboured performance against Forbes. There's a saying that claims you're only as good as your last performance, but i doubt that many expected Pacquiao to beat De La Hoya so convicingly. Freddie Roach was obviously one of those that did expect his fighter to beat De La Hoya convincingly... Prior to the fight he stated that De La Hoya couldn't pull the trigger any more and he repeated that after the fight which proves it wasn't just hype... Roach is obviously a knowlegable man and i'm inclined to agree with him because i don't see why Oscar should continue to take risks at 35 years of age, but i also don't think that he will want to retire on the back of such a loss.

[brently1979]

Ok fellas before you jump all over me and call me an idoit read the entire post. I saw the fight and yes I was amazed at how badily Oscar got beat. I was thinking we were going to see a good fight competitive and if anyone was going to be handing out punishment it would be De la Hoya handing out more then he was taking. But Manny showed us that speed is the main factor in boxing. If you have the advantage with hands speed and you carry some power you can dominate just about anybody no matter what the weight class.

manny didn't just look faster but he looked light years faster on Saturday night. I kept telling myself I was dreaming I even pinched myself to make sure I was awake. I had to stand up after the 6th round and turn away from the TV because I couldn't belive what I was seeing. It was like Manny almost didn't want to finish him he would pull back off the ropes and waive Oscar in. Like as if he was asking Oscar bring the fight to me. Many think that if Oscar had fought Cotto or Marg they would have disposed of Oscar just as easily. I beg to differ and I will tell you why.

Oscar main issue Saturday night was speed. Lightening fast greasy speed just like Mickey said in Rocky II. If you can catch this chicken you can catch Creed. Well I bet Nacho didn't have Oscar chaing any chickens during his trainin camp. Point is Marg is a come forward face first puncher who doesn't punch that hard but throws alot of punches. Oscar could out box Marg for a few rounds and put up more of a fight then he showed us this past Saturday. Heck he might even be able to bet marg if he got Marg to agree to fight him at 154. marg would nver bounce on his feet and jump around the ring on his way in like PACMAN did. marg would be getting tagged with Oscars jab. End point is although I think marg would beat Oscar he would have had more a fight on his nads then PACMAN did.

Cotto same thought here is not as fast as PACMAN. Doesnt not move around as much on his way in. Don't think Oscar could out box him as easily as Marg but I think he would be easier to hit then PAC was Saturday ngiht.All in all I think it would have been a more competitive fight than we saw Saturday when the so Called Dream Match took place ...More like Oscar's Night mare.....Lefty

I think that was part of the game plan, not getting caught in the one spot for too long.