Only haters think Calzaghe is not an ATG

[Pullcounter]

A handful of decent wins doesn't qualify you as an ATG.

also beating a shot rjj and barely getting past an old hopkins doesnt' make you ATG.

[Benny Leonard]

he may get into the hall of fame but that don't make him an ATG.

Of course not...but he is going into the Hall.

When I think of ATGs, I think of Louis, Jimmy Wilde, Benny Leonard , Sugar Ray Robinson, Ali, etc.

Joe's in the hall down near the bathroom. {kidding}

[THE REED]

Of course not...but he is going into the Hall.

When I think of ATGs, I think of Louis, Jimmy Wilde, Benny Leonard , Sugar Ray Robinson, Ali, etc.

Joe's in the hall down near the bathroom. {kidding}

{kinda} :roy4:

[THE REED]

Some people are sensitve on these boards so I felt nice today and included it

lol they are sensitive... look i got no problem with praising joe as a good fighter... its the people that blow him up to more then what he is... blow his wins up more then they are.... just be realisitc about his accomplishments and we dont have a problem... 46-0 isnt an easy task no matter who ur fighting... but just realize whose included in those 46

[ACHlLLES]

lol they are sensitive... look i got no problem with praising joe as a good fighter... its the people that blow him up to more then what he is... blow his wins up more then they are.... just be realisitc about his accomplishments and we dont have a problem... 46-0 isnt an easy task no matter who ur fighting... but just realize whose included in those 46

The Roy Jones Jr that people only said he was shot once Calzaghe beat him up, the same Roy Jones Jr who lost the first 4 rounds to trinidad and some of his fans still believe he wasn't shot.

[Bobby Shaw]

Look at this video, this is a Prime Jeff Lacy, not a shell of the fighter who lost to Taylor last week.

Regardless how good Lacy is or how overrated he was, you can beat a fighter and then you can do this to one. Taylor didn't beat a shot Lacy nearly as badly as Calzaghe beat this Lacy.

Ass whooping.

Wrong title.The right title should read 'only trolls think Calzaghe is ATG'

[Benny Leonard]

lol they are sensitive... look i got no problem with praising joe as a good fighter... its the people that blow him up to more then what he is... blow his wins up more then they are.... just be realisitc about his accomplishments and we dont have a problem... 46-0 isnt an easy task no matter who ur fighting... but just realize whose included in those 46

Well Sir, maybe you dont' undestand the Greatness Joe just achieved...let me explain:

Hopkins was 43 and just beat an incredible fighter in Kelly Pavlik. 43 may sound old, but if we remember, Foreman at 45 beat Michael Moorer...so age is just a number.

Roy Jones just beat Tito who is a HOF fighter. Roy is a legend in the sport.
Roy is only 39 or so which makes him younger than Hopkins who was younger than Foreman. Age is just a number. Roy was still good.


Note: Hopkins has been on the decline since Tito which is about 8 years. He also lost to Taylor twice at middleweight which many thought was the end. His inability to fight from round 1 on showed he was being careful with preserving his stamina...something he never did prior to Tito.

Bernard's move up to fight Tarver, who defeated a deflated Casper the Ghost, I mean Roy Jones, meant little except to signal Jones kicked it into 6th gear and aged quickly by destroying his body's equilibrium from the muscle weight loss and age. It is also arguable that Roy peaked at 30 athletically and had been on a slow decline.

Roy was later knocked out by Tarver in the rematch and looked hesitant in the 3rd fight. Roy's confidence was shot; just like his body. Roy would later be KTFO by Glen Johnson; a fighter Roy would have toyed with in his prime
This same weight loss act would be followed by Tarver's move to a HW weight for the Rocky movie. He would lose the weight and come in "flat"/deflated for Hopkins, who took advantage of the situation; the old fox struck again.

Hopkins would go on to beat a middleweight named Pavlik: A tall, lanky, stiff, slow, predictable, but tough, strong, somewhat powerful fighter who had never fought a great technical fighter. He was mentally broken down by Hopkins who did perform well, but it may have something to do with his opponent being exposed…we’ll see in the future. Maybe Pavlik was sick…I don’t know. He was soundly defeated by a 43 year old.

[WhoreUs]

The Roy Jones Jr that people only said he was shot once Calzaghe beat him up, the same Roy Jones Jr who lost the first 4 rounds to trinidad and some of his fans still believe he wasn't shot.

mac...... everyone knew roy was shot 4-5 years ago when he lost 3 in a row and 2 back to back got ktfo.

we just thought a SHOT ROY was still good enough to beat JOE.

[Gatti9783]

Calzaghe is not an all-time great. He is one of the P4P best at the moment, but to call him an all-time great would be a slap in the face to true ATG's.

Robinson
Leonard
Ali
Calzaghe
Louis
Dempsey
Duran

hmmm...which one is out of place? lol

[Benny Leonard]

Calzaghe is not an all-time great. He is one of the P4P best at the moment, but to call him an all-time great would be a slap in the face to true ATG's.

Robinson
Leonard
Ali
Calzaghe
Louis
Dempsey
Duran

hmmm...which one is out of place? lol

Teacha...is this correct?