Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. - At Zero Tolerance

[JakeNDaBox]

That sucks! Just like Marquez-Cassamayor Golden Boy PPV. DAMN IT! Anyone know how many of the fights they're showing?

As far as I know, this is the lineup:

Julio Cesar Chavez Jr vs. Matt Vanda II
Nonito Donaire vs. Moruti Mthalane
Jorge Arce vs. Isidro Garcia
Vanes Martirosyan vs. Charles Howe

Lamont Peterson's fighting Lanardo Tyner and Matt Korobov is making his pro debut.

As much as I like Vanes, considering his opponent. I'd almost rather see Peterson-Tyner (as I'm a big fan of both Peterson brothers anyway)

[TEXSTRO]

What the damn problem is this ****s getting to easy for Jr so hes not motivated anymore.... they need to beat his ass and light a fire under his ass. Hes not his dad or will he ever be... To tell you the truth Id rather see Omar fight than Jr.

[ed*words]

Arum is shady!

The kid has skills offensively, needs work on d...the problem is that Bob Arum is taking advantage of the Chavez name for "dinero". I need to see a KO before rd 8 on this one...hopefully help on the training team and a big step up in opponent for the next fight, if not im done paying to see the kid.

[Catrin]

JR. needs to show the fans what he is really made off... how? by boxing well this saturday and facing better opponents... i think Jr can rally make a statement if he was to fight Victor Ortiz. Now this would be a hell of a fight!!

[parrinkinpau]

what If He Comes In On Saturday And Knocks Vanda Out? It's Known That Doctors Didn't Want Him To Fight The First Time Due To Him Being Sick But He Still Went Out And Fought. Chavez Doesn't Even Have An Amateur Career He's Still Learning. Writers Like This Dufous Are Really Out Of Things To Write About. How Many Great Fighters Do We Have Today That Had Early Losses In Their Careers? Pacquiao, Castillo, Margarito, Mijares, Hopkins, Wright....just To Name A Few. People Are Expecting To Much Out Of Chavez. He's Barely In His 20, No Amateur Career And This Writer Is Acting Like Chavez Is This Failure When He's Yet To Even Get Started. It's Amazing How People Hate You When Your Making Money, I Guess People Hate That Chavez Is His Dad And That He's Known And Making Money. Get Over It! It's Like Hating Michael Jordan Son Because He's Not As Good As His Dad But Oh Wait His Son Is Not Making Money So It's Ok.

Totally Agree With You 100 %

[Catrin]

CAN U GUYS IMAGINE "VICIOUS ORTIZ vs CHAVEZ JR" All in favor say I.....
Now this would be the fight that would put one of them in the map!!!
there both young, talented and hungry for succes. LET ME KNOW WHAT U GUYS THINK? a Hell of a fight....

[PHX PLAYMAKER]

CAN U GUYS IMAGINE "VICIOUS ORTIZ vs CHAVEZ JR" All in favor say I.....
Now this would be the fight that would put one of them in the map!!!
there both young, talented and hungry for succes. LET ME KNOW WHAT U GUYS THINK? a Hell of a fight....

If Jr considered retiring after the Vanda fight my boy Vicious will really retire his ass

[ANDROID_DOES]

Have any of the fighters mentioned above lost or have come close to losing to journeymen and cannon fodder when they were being highly touted about with such great promise?

I suppose I can only speak for myself and a few people I've talked to, but people aren't hating on Chavez Jr. because he's making money, they are fed up with sub par performances against competition he should run over when all he's facing is tomato cans time and time again. He's in the professional ranks where people pay money to see him fight, who wants a poor show? when your own raza is booing you (and your papi) after a performance the other guy won (this happened on two separate occasions) that pretty much gives a strong impression that a famous name will give you in some cases unfair advantages.

Yes, he doesn't have an amateur background all the more reason why I think he shouldn't have been rushed into the pro's. If anybody expected too much of him it was probably his father and handlers. I truly empathize with Chavez Jr. it would just break my heart to see him get knocked out by a club fighter, when going for broke and facing a credible opponent that will elevate your stock considerably would be more understanding.

As you well know the Boxing game is harsh, but the critics are often the most harsh. Chavez Sr. was a born fighter, an enigma in his country that had an almost religious bond with his fans. I think Chavez Jr. will always have to deal with the stigma of being the son of that legend, and living up to his father's expectations as well as the fans is something I believe he's going to get tired of doing. Some fighter's are born with that sense of destiny, in my opinion Chavez Jr. isn't one of them.

you forget to realize that all this about chavez is just bull**** from the media and him expecting him to be just like his dad. All those guys i mentioned are giving a free pass for their losses since they weren't born to a legendary father.

[ANDROID_DOES]

CAN U GUYS IMAGINE "VICIOUS ORTIZ vs CHAVEZ JR" All in favor say I.....
Now this would be the fight that would put one of them in the map!!!
there both young, talented and hungry for succes. LET ME KNOW WHAT U GUYS THINK? a Hell of a fight....

that would be a nice fight one that i think both can win if they can use enforce their plan but i think victor ortiz beats chavez.

[AntonTheMeh]

i don't like his father.but i do like him.atleast he aint like his crybaby ass father.i hope he beats vanda.