the annoying pac/hoya money issue...

[Eaner0919]

that's your opinion. and no, the split isn't about ego and pride. do you think there would be a huge controversy over ego and pride? hell no.

I can see how that is solely my opinion but knowing what I know and for as long as I have known it I can tell you the split % isn't always about money. Ego and pride to play a factor into it, example, SSM refused to take I think an 80-20 split because he didnt think it was fair but then took what I think was a 75-25 split when he rematched DLH. That 5% isn't necessarily something SSM couldn't do without so it was more about pride than actual $

manny may not be a "mega star", but he IS the one fighter that EVERYONE in the lower weight classes wants a piece of. Not to mention that there's already alot of hype for this fight (from the huge issue regarding the size difference, and the fact that delahoya wants to beat pacquiao to avenge mexico), and everyone already knows that this will be one of the biggest events in boxing history. If you want to say that all this is because of oscar, you're wrong. For this matchup, pacquiao's just as important as oscar is, because if it wasnt for pacquiao, the fight wouldnt have been as big. and you want to tell him that a 70-30 split is reasonable? even the 65-35 seems kinda low IN MY OPINION, but definitely is alot better than a 70-30 split. Sure oscar generates alot of revenue, but in this case, pac's a huge factor as well as to why this fight will bring about alot, and that's why i argue that the offered 70-30 is too low for pacquiao even though he'll make more in this fight than any other. the man's arguably the most entertaining fighter to watch in boxing, and in my opinion definitely deserves more.)

dude

how many buys did Manny-Diaz do? 125 maybe?

whats been Manny's biggest purse to date? 3-4 million maybe?

say the pot is about 70 million for this fight. Even at 10% he would double Manny's previous high payday and with about 5% of what DLH did is his last PPV (2.4 million vs 125k buys)

read my comment above

I did and it smells of Manny love. You obviously dont the Manny's market value and only see him as some idol or diety or whatever.

fact is fact Manny doesn't draw without a dance partner.

my bad. indeed he is a lightweight. so let me rephrase that.. what lightweight do you see is eying some of the elite fighters 2-3 weight classes up? and i'm talkin about the lower weight classes. not the higher. good for pavlik. you tryna make yourself look good or something?

Pavlik and what does it matter what weight they are at as long as the effort is there? IMO you probably didn't realize that someone other than Manny is going to do it first to an arguably better fighter (Pavlik taking Hopkins versus Manny taking on what you admit to is a part time fighter in DLH)

so I *****ed you why do you feel the need to get all offended do to it? dude if you dont like the comments people say about your little diatribe then either ignore it or dont write it but as it is the theory is flawed

delahoya and mayweather are huge names in boxing, and hatton, although not as big as hoya or pbf, are all stepping stones for pacquiao to possibly retire as an ATG if he were beat them. sure there's big money involved, and i never doubted that, but i was speaking in behalf of the benefits for pacquiao legacy wise

yeah I can see that as it is seemingly impossible to have a run like this. However, if you think its solely for legacy then you are mistaken.

green is driving this no matter how much you wish otherwise

okay, well if you want to be technical, calling oscar an all-time-great IS debatable. but whether or not he'll be considered an ATG, oscar will forever be well known in boxing history, and that's the impact i was trying to bring about by calling him an ATG. sorry.

so is Tyson and I wouldn't consider him an all time great.

jusgt admit Manny is going after in order 1) the green 2) the name 3) the challenge

Hatton's record is remarkable, and has a pretty good resume.. he's a great fighter in my eyes.

what makes his resume remarkable as you put it? simple question you should be able to answer.

in my opinion, hatton's a step up from cotto and margarito. (some will disagree)..

wrong. Hatton's reign at 140 has largely been against so so fighters and his venture at 147 was at best a disaster.

cotto came out of a loss to margarito, and people are already questioning how he's going to bounce back

because of the manner at how he got beat not for the skills or resume he posesses.

.. i think he'd have a little more proving to do to deserve a shot at pacquiao.

thats laughable

and as for margarito, he's definitely a good fighter, dangerous, and would be a great matchup for pac.. but before the cotto fight, he wasn't as big as he is now.

but this ISNT pre Cotto now is it? as it stands now name a bigger Mexican fighter?

he ended up winning against a favored cotto, and is now the current big thing in the welterweight division... it would be a big fight with a great outcome,

yeah if you enjoy Manny getting pummeled I guess

but i don't think that a fight with margarito is big enough for pacquiao to consider having as one of his last fights..

ahahahahaha we so not worthy of Manny......

wow seriously you sound like a fan of Manny not boxing now

hatton's record is remarkable with only one loss, and fought the former pound for pound champ PBF, who happens to be his only loss.

thanks for the info boxrec warrior

although cotto and margarito wanted a piece of floyd, hatton has, and put up a decent fight.

ahahahahaa a decent fight? he got mopped the **** up.

you sure you watch boxing?

pacquiao would be facing an opponent who has ring experience against the best,

like?

Tszyu and Mayweather? ok but he is a mighty 1-1 in those

and that's why pacquiao/hatton fight at 140 in my opinion would do more justice.

ok

Pac/JMM 3 is finished business. get over it. the first fight was a draw but was supposed to be a win for pacquiao if it wasn't for a scoring error, and pac won the second. argue all you want, but that's what it said in the books. finished business.

you sound like a whiny Manny fan who for some strange reason dont want to see him in the ring with JMM.

I could also argue that while Manny, by way of his knockdowns, has indeed a 1-0-1 record on JMM it has been JMM who has been the better boxer in each of those fights

see but to hear you tell it Manny won in dominating fashion

he didnt

get over it

no. theres nothing huge at 130 or 135 compared to what he could be doing at 140 or 147. If you didnt know, manny was planning to retire soon. he doesnt have another 5-6 fights to clean out the up and comers at 130 and the old champs/ young up and comers of 135, and thats why hes trying to make an impact with the bigger fights in the bigger weight classes)

again if for the money then fine but think he is some superhero coming to save your world by fighting the toughest challenges because it sounds cultish

he is in it for the money just like every fighter who fights Oscar

read my post again.. he's capable of wiping out 135

there are a few fighters I wouldnt favor Manny against

replies like this are the primary reason as to why i made this thread. yeah he'd be making the most money by fighting ODLH, hatton and PBF, but those names would be best under his resume as opposed to a lineup of say cotto, margarito and JMM.. sure pac can make alot of money outta any of these last 3 listed, but like i said.. the first 3 fights would look way better under his resume

you really dont know the sport do you? DLH on his resume now as opposed to back in say 2001 is huge. Hatton circa 2005 2006 the same. and what good would a Mayweather fight do other than get him pummeled and schooled.

if you're honestly neither, then good for you. i said that "chances are" that "most of you" haters are either JMM fans or pac haters, referring to the majority of those who are ignorant

actually you sound more ignorant and butt hurt than anything.

smart ass

and here is my proof