Arthur Abraham Wants America - and Kelly Pavlik

[KJB]

Bro his ****ing jaw was broken. Has your jaw every been CRACKED or FRACTURED...........Do you know what kind of pain that is? So don't even count the first fight because WITH a broken jaw AA rattled Miranda a couple of times

Well Miranda did break that jaw with his fists.
In all fairness, Pavlik may have softened up Miranda for AA in the second fight. I am not saying Miranda was a less a fighter in the rematch for sure, but its not inconceivable that he was weaker mentally or physically after what Kelly did to him. Watch their fight again if you disagree.

[WLAD OWNS]

Oh here we go again, Miranda wasn't so soft when he knocked someone out of the ring was he. I don't give a **** if its an amature in front of you, if you have a power to knock someone out of the ring....your not ****ing damaged goods.

Miranda's chin was softened up by Pavlik

Pavlik landed tons of hard flush punches on Miranda, it was a very brutal beatdown...that type of beatdown ruins a fighter.

[deanrw]

Abraham with his power, which I consider P4P as #1, is a very serious opponent for anyone from 160-168.

The guy is for real. I am glad he wants to step up now. He is a monster and he and Pavlik will be in a murderous fight.

Abraham is cagey and smart in the ring. He can be too economical at times which could cost him, but his offensive explosions more than make up for it.

Whomever comes out of their fight the winner, no other opponent will want to touch.

[v.cassiusali@ya]

if physique is to be the gauge, miranda is the best. he has what it takes to be a great champion. but lost badly to kelly pavlik and abraham. he reminds me of frank bruno who got the build but lasted only 3 rounds with tyson. miranda looked amateurish with abraham.

abraham may pose some challenge for pavlik, but his skills is way beyond "the ghost".

easy fight for pavlik.

i hope to see the fight happen.

[12boxin_C12]

8 defenses, and Taylor is at 168. I doubt that fight happens. He can demand a fight with Pav, or he can be cordial like he is now lol. Pav wants Ab, Ab wants Pav. Make the fight A.S.A.P!!!!!!!! Abraham by crushing 7 round ko.

considering abrahams style, pavlik by brutal 6th round ko. sorry boof but it is whut it is, the truth.

[KostyaTszyu44]

Pavlik/Abraham will be the fight of the year for 2009

Pavlik by late TKO in a war

hmm i dont think pavlik can TKO abraham...i either see both going toe to toe and since abrahams chin and defence are better than pavliks i think he will prevail in a tough and exciting fight


or pavlik could box a bit more cautiously and outwork abe to a UD but i think the former scenario is more likely

[12boxin_C12]

nahh arthurs chin and turtle shell defence will be too strong for pavlik, and pavliks chin is good but not indestructable


abraham by late TKO

u have no idea

[KostyaTszyu44]

u have no idea

well i elaborated a bit more but basically my reasoning is that this wil be a toe to toe fight and when two guys go toe to toe the guy with the better chin , power and defence comes off the winner...which is abraham

[KJB]

hmm i dont think pavlik can TKO abraham...i either see both going toe to toe and since abrahams chin and defence are better than pavliks i think he will prevail in a tough and exciting fight


or pavlik could box a bit more cautiously and outwork abe to a UD but i think the former scenario is more likely

I think most fans on either side see it the same way. Pavlik throws more punches and is more aggressive, and Arthur shells up, blocks many of Kellys punches and explodes with big bombs.
The difference is if you see Kelly getting KOed by Arthurs bursts of offense, which I dont. And thats why I see Pavlik wining the UD.
Most seem to see the fight going that general direction though.

[KostyaTszyu44]

I think most fans on either side see it the same way. Pavlik throws more punches and is more aggressive, and Arthur shells up, blocks many of Kellys punches and explodes with big bombs.
The difference is if you see Kelly getting KOed by Arthurs bursts of offense, which I dont. And thats why I see Pavlik wining the UD.
Most seem to see the fight going that general direction though.

yeahh has the potential to be an all time great middleweight match-up though, regardless of the victor

i mean though, like if pavlik can be dropped and hurt by taylor, abe can certainly KO him with his burts of power shots