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Insider Notebook: De La Hoya's Legacy in Jeopardy?

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    #21
    I WILL NOT PAY FOR DLH VS PAC!!!! Anyone who knows anything about Boxing can see how big of a scam this is. This is horrible for Boxing, but Sergio Mora would be even worse. At least people know who Pacquaio is and he has a huge fanbase. Mora has like 50 Mexicans from LA who watch all his fights. Sugar Shane is kind of pointless but I think it's the best choice. Of course Margarito is the fight that everyone really wants to see. Too bad DLH is scared.

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      #22
      Originally posted by BabyFaceAssasin View Post
      I WILL NOT PAY FOR DLH VS PAC!!!! Anyone who knows anything about Boxing can see how big of a scam this is. This is horrible for Boxing, but Sergio Mora would be even worse. At least people know who Pacquaio is and he has a huge fanbase. Mora has like 50 Mexicans from LA who watch all his fights. Sugar Shane is kind of pointless but I think it's the best choice. Of course Margarito is the fight that everyone really wants to see. Too bad DLH is scared.
      Winky Wright is available too. Trinidad will do it at 164.

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        #23
        Dlh's legacy is sealed. He is in it for the money. Calling him a coward now will not hurt Dlh in anyway. I used to think Dlh fighting PAc was nonsense, until Pac forgot about Guzman and Valero. Now I'm waiting and have been waiting for a while for Pac to fight a real challenge. Arum is the scum of the earth.

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          #24
          Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
          Winky Wright is available too. Trinidad will do it at 164.
          Dlh won't fight Winky because he probably still thinks there is no money in that fight. Had Winky been active, This could be a good money fight for Dlh. I think that fight is still a good fight. Tito I hear is not going to fight Dlh at any weight below 160, and Dlh is not going above 154.

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            #25
            Originally posted by BIGPOPPAPUMP View Post
            Winky Wright is available too. Trinidad will do it at 164.
            Tito would be bigger money than Wright, but if DLH won't fight Margarito I don't know why he would fight Winky. At this point Margarito brings more money and has a better style for DLH to have an exciting fight and to me it's more winable than a fight against Winky. Tito could barely make 170, I'd like to see him make 164.

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              #26
              Oscar loses all his big fights? Listen I'm no DLH fan but the guy has beaten Whitaker,Chavez 2X,G. Hernandez(when he was on top of his game)F. Vargas and I.Quartey.Everyone knows he really beat Trinidad and the second Mosely fight could/should have gone Oscars way.The only fight he was beat soundly was against huge middlewight Hopkins and he was doing ok on the scorecards up to that point.Say what you want about ODLH,he mightact like a spoiled lil ***** now but he has fought the very best of his generation spanning many different weight classes.

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                #27
                Originally posted by SugarK View Post
                Oscar loses all his big fights? Listen I'm no DLH fan but the guy has beaten Whitaker,Chavez 2X,G. Hernandez(when he was on top of his game)F. Vargas and I.Quartey.Everyone knows he really beat Trinidad and the second Mosely fight could/should have gone Oscars way.The only fight he was beat soundly was against huge middlewight Hopkins and he was doing ok on the scorecards up to that point.Say what you want about ODLH,he mightact like a spoiled lil ***** now but he has fought the very best of his generation spanning many different weight classes.
                Fought yes, beat? not really...

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by SugarK View Post
                  Oscar loses all his big fights? Listen I'm no DLH fan but the guy has beaten Whitaker,Chavez 2X,G. Hernandez(when he was on top of his game)F. Vargas and I.Quartey.Everyone knows he really beat Trinidad and the second Mosely fight could/should have gone Oscars way.The only fight he was beat soundly was against huge middlewight Hopkins and he was doing ok on the scorecards up to that point.Say what you want about ODLH,he mightact like a spoiled lil ***** now but he has fought the very best of his generation spanning many different weight classes.
                  Yes Oscar was at his best against Gennaro Hernandez, and Hernandez was close to his worst. He'd been fighting already for 11 years, was near the end of his career, (only 5-6 more fights) and to make things easier for Oscar, he was a Junior Lightweight coming up for the very first time to lighweight-weighing in at 133lbs.

                  AS far as Quartey, Whitaker etc. are concerned Oscar lost those fights, certainly didn't win them. And Chavez, was a long washed up fighter already for several years. There was a good reason why Oscar lost popularity with the Mexican fans over this fight. He had EVERY advantage-and then some.

                  Oscar always made sure to have advantages in EVERY fight he made. He occasionally slipped up, like with Trinidad and Mosley.

                  Trinidad, who, although completely weight drained, (did you see his ribs bursting trough his skin) had the stamina which Oscar didn't, to pressure and finally chase him around the ring for the last 5 rounds and deservedly won the fight.

                  Mosley won that fight. That it was unanimous was only "poetic justice", [since he'd only obtained a disgraceful split decision in their first fight, which he'd actually won easily]. Oscar was as sick as a pup at the end, his body battered black and blue I'm sure, even with his famous chest protector practically up to his neck [which no ref ever objected to].

                  As for the Hopkins fight, pre-ordained I believe, nothing needs to be said about that, since everything already has been said.

                  As you may notice, I don't like Oscar, although he's a good fighter. He's too greedy and mean, and wants-and gets- all kinds of advantages over the other guy. It's never a level playing field in an Oscar fight.

                  And he's hard at it again in pursuing this ridiculous Pacquiao fight.

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                    #29
                    I have never wanted a fighter to retire so bad.

                    Hard to imagine I was once a huge De La Hoya fan.

                    Now I just wish he would go the **** away.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by SugarK View Post
                      Oscar loses all his big fights? Listen I'm no DLH fan but the guy has beaten Whitaker,Chavez 2X,G. Hernandez(when he was on top of his game)F. Vargas and I.Quartey.Everyone knows he really beat Trinidad and the second Mosely fight could/should have gone Oscars way.The only fight he was beat soundly was against huge middlewight Hopkins and he was doing ok on the scorecards up to that point.Say what you want about ODLH,he mightact like a spoiled lil ***** now but he has fought the very best of his generation spanning many different weight classes.
                      Felix Sturm you forgot?

                      And actually looked like some **** since that day.

                      He lost that one.

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