Wow Jones looked so easy to hit in those videos. Probably due to the execution of punches mind, no one's speculating a Calzaghe KO yet lol.
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who was more exposed Tyson or Jones jr
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Originally posted by SupremeElectron View PostHomey, I'm one of the biggest Floyd Mayweather fans of all time. I've been to a ton of his fights live and even talked to him when he came to Chicago for his press conference w/De La Hoya.
I even have a signed shirt of his framed and hanging on a wall in my den. LOL!
But lets be real, Roy in his prime was better than Floyd in his prime. As GREAT as Floyd was, he never fought a James Toney or Bernard Hopkins type fighter. Never.
The closest he came to that was Oscar and Zab...close but no cigar.
Lets not forget Floyd's near DEATH experience with Emmanual Burton. LOL! I was there for that fight at the COBO center and Floyd seriously got WORKED. To his credit, he wound up stopping Burton, but he got that ass tapped in the process.
Prime Roy was UNTOUCHABLE.
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Originally posted by SupremeElectron View PostRoy fought cans after Toney?
Antonio Tarver is a can? Fighting John Ruiz at heavyweight is "can business"? Clinton Woods is a can? Eric Harding was a can? Eric Lucas a can?
Let me tell you something: Eric Harding > Zab Judah, Sharmba Mitchell, Arturo Gatti, Phillip N'dou, Henry Bruseles, etc...
Ruiz was ,is a can yes
Woods is a can aswell he robbed Glen Johnson remind me who he had beaten of note before or after that? the guy was another Roy can
Eric Lucas watching the fight lets you know what a can this guy was
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Originally posted by El Dominicano View PostNah, you can say that RJJ is a better athlete but overall Mayweather is the better fighter. Roy depends on his speed and reflxes to avoid getting hit...he never really had a D. Notice, how recently he started putting his hands up. P4P Mayweather beats RJJ.
agreed Floyd is the best technically sound fighter EVER and one of the most complete fighters ever
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Lets not forget Floyd's near DEATH experience with Emmanual Burton. LOL! I was there for that fight at the COBO center and Floyd seriously got WORKED. To his credit, he wound up stopping Burton, but he got that ass tapped in the process.
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Tarver hit him with such a sweet punch, glass jaw nothin, great punch.
Second example is sheer chandelier.
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neither. the only thing exposed was jones' age(35) and tyson's height(5'10). both were beaten for those reasons and nothing else.
jones' fight style relied on speed and reaction to avoid punches and that wasn't working for him anymore.
tyson's height and reach disadvantages started showing against the taller fighters who knew how to fight him. he only lost against significantly taller fighters who used their jab to keep their distance and when tyson would make his way on inside, they would quickly hold him which made tyson's exceptional athletic skills ineffective. tyson would have been a monster at cruiserweight but he wouldn't have made nearly as much money which is probably why he chose to go heavyweight. if you really think about, there were fighters that have fought at super featherweight, lightweight, welterweight that were taller than tyson. hw was not the division for him but he still tore through the division in the 80's and captured all 3 major belts(of that time) and beat all his contenders. Just his accomplishments in the 80's alone puts him as a top 10 hw all-time IMO.Last edited by -Swizzy-; 08-20-2008, 10:19 AM.
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Originally posted by El Dominicano View PostNah, you can say that RJJ is a better athlete but overall Mayweather is the better fighter. Roy depends on his speed and reflxes to avoid getting hit...he never really had a D. Notice, how recently he started putting his hands up. P4P Mayweather beats RJJ.
Floyd's D was better, but he wasn't unhittable like Pernell Whitaker. Roy Jones, in his prime, had never taken as many flush punches to his face as Floyd did when he fought Emmanuel Burton Augustus.
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