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Who's a Better Fighter: Pavlik or Kessler?

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    #21
    Kessler is stiff as a board, Pavlik would knock hm out in 7 rounds. It's ludicrous that you clowns think Kessler is on the same level when he has fought nobodies.

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      #22
      Originally posted by fightingfigs View Post
      Yes but if they fought Pavlik would ice Kessler
      I still think Kessler would win and regardless. It's not who would win it's who is the better fighter, Saddler beat Pep 3 out of 4 times but Pep is ranked above him etc

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        #23
        Originally posted by them_apples View Post
        Kessler is stiff as a board, Pavlik would knock hm out in 7 rounds. It's ludicrous that you clowns think Kessler is on the same level when he has fought nobodies.
        Now that's a very poor post. Even by your low standards.

        Another thing we're not considering here is the significant size advantage for Kessler.

        Kessler comes in at 183 guys, Pavlik only walks around at 178. Kessler has a much, much bigger frame than Pavlik.

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          #24
          Originally posted by _Ricky_ View Post
          Now that's a very poor post. Even by your low standards.

          Another thing we're not considering here is the significant size advantage for Kessler.

          Kessler comes in at 183 guys, Pavlik only walks around at 178. Kessler has a much, much bigger frame than Pavlik.
          I'm not sure the size really matters here because Kessler has frame packed with Muscle, Pavlik doesn't look like he has packed alot of muscle onto that frame of his.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Sergei23 View Post
            Pavlik has the better resume...but Kessler is the better fighter

            He does almost everything better than Pavlik

            Kessler/Pavlik Breakdown

            Speed - Kessler

            Power - Even, maybe slight edge Pavlik

            Footwork - Kessler

            Jab - Kessler

            Chin - Pavlik

            Heart - Pavlik

            Workrate - Pavlik

            Combinations - Kessler

            Left Hook - Kessler

            Athleticism - Kessler
            Kesslers Power not even close to Kellys overall power , Kessler went the distance with a blown up lightweight I could never see Kelly doing that , I dont think Kessler is anywhere near Kelly in power he has a right hand where Kelly hits hard with everything .

            Footwork is one of Kesslers biggest flaws , his feet are too wide apart which means he has to be set to punch he cannot change direction quickly with your feet that far apart and he cant move backwards without getting all tanglefoot when they come at him hard , if you offset him he is always trying to get set , this is what Joe did just offset him , inside punching range Pavlik is faster in changing position and punchers harder and more frequently from different positions , like I said Kessler must be set to punch at a certain distance his power is at full extention where Kelly can punch faster more accurate and harder short and middle range and can match him at long range .

            My take is Kessler will not handle Kellys 12round power and his aggressive pressure .

            We shouldnt forget that Kelly is also a middleweight .

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              #26
              I voted Kessler but would lean toward Pavlik to win should they fight, if that makes sense.

              I think Kessler is the more physically gifted and talented guy, but Pavlik's demeanor and determination have helped him prevail over more talented guys before, and I don't see Kessler as having the mentality it would take to beat Pav. He doesn't react well to getting hit, and judging by the fights he's taking since Calzaghe, he's not very interested in challenging himself, which shows weakness IMO.

              My opinion could change if Kessler were to step it up, but for now that's the way I see it.

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                #27
                Originally posted by Terrible... View Post
                who has tested Kessler's chin
                Mundine maybe be or power hitter Calzaghe

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                  #28
                  Pavlik would be all over Kessler like a cheap suit

                  i wish the fight was made now id clean up on E points with all u Kessler fans

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                    #29
                    someone just said kessler has a better jab than pavlik. FAIL

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                      #30
                      Pavlik's better than he gets credit for, but Kessler has a lil more variety to his game imo.

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