Calzaghe: "Kessler is Better Than Pavlik, and I Beat Him"

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Kessler is a technically gifted and a well-polished fighter, he's also a monster at 168. Pavlik is similar to Kessler ability wise but is probably more explosive?

A fight between these two is a 50/50 fight IMO. Pavlik wouldn't just walk straight through Kessler, no way, not at 168.

Two wins against Taylor doesn't make you a world beater. I wouldn't say Kessler is a better fighter then Pavlik, but Kessler is a bigger test for Calzaghe at 168 and happy slappy beat him.

Pavlik needs a *******, an AK-47 and hand grenades to beat Calzaghe. Real talk!

I reckon it would be a competitive fight for sure, but I really think Kessler would be too fast and agile for Pavlik. Quicker in, quicker out. I think he'd get a pretty wide decision over Kelly, but I would enjoy seeing the fight.

[Steak]

I agree. I think he should've fought Pavlik first. If he wins, it increases interest in him fighting Jones anyway so he gets more $$$ in the end. Not that I agree with making the decision based upon money in the first place.

Pavlik is only going to get better, and Calzaghe is only going to get worse. I actually cannot think of any other fighter who relies upon speed and stamina that has still been almost as good as ever at the age of 36.

He will decline at some point though, and his hands are only going to get worse as well. I saw an interview with him a week after the Hopkins fight and he mentioned that they were still sore. I really don't think most people realise how bad they are.

Hopkins himself was more or less prime around 36, and look at someone like Mosley...he still relies on his speed and stamina at 35ish, and gave Cotto a hell of a run with it. so it happens sometimes.

Maybe because he's one of the longest reigning champions in history with one of the highest number of defences, unified his division and then went to a new weight and beat the #1 fighter there? What do you want? Beating Pavlik would be nice, but don't be fooled, Pavlik is just the next name to come along, he's a MW champ with one defence and one meaningful win. Beating him doesn't prove anything Joe hasn't proved before.

As for his prime. His physical prime passed long ago, before the Lacy fight in fact and he's been slipping since then IMO. At 37 (or almost) it is getting decidedly dicey for him on the age front.

give me a break. if youre a real fan of a fighter, you want him to fight the best and give us the best fights. Tony fought Wlad, the best at Heavy, and got knocked out. but I was happy that that happened instead of Tony just running around fighting less risky guys.

and youre nuts if you dont think that Pavlik would add greatly to Calzaghe's legacy. title defences and paper belts mean almost nothing in this day and age. cmon, look at someone like Zsolt Erdie. the guy has around 10 title defences and none of the guys were even worthwhile. does that make him a better Light Heavyweight than someone like Dwight Muhammed Qawi, who only defended his about 4 times? hell no.

the better people that Calzaghe fights, the better his legacy. Me, I would prefer to see Calzaghe try to get as high as he can on ATG lists, and hes not going to do that by ignoring challengers that are worthy of fighting him.

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I don't think Pavlik can beat Kessler or Calzaghe, but that doesn't give Calzaghe the excuse to not fight Pavlik.

If Calzaghe knows he can beat Pavlik, why not just fight him and pick up that pay check... MONEY-IN-THE-BANK

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Hopkins himself was more or less prime around 36, and look at someone like Mosley...he still relies on his speed and stamina at 35ish, and gave Cotto a hell of a run with it. so it happens sometimes.


give me a break. if youre a real fan of a fighter, you want him to fight the best and give us the best fights. Tony fought Wlad, the best at Heavy, and got knocked out. but I was happy that that happened instead of Tony just running around fighting less risky guys.

and youre nuts if you dont think that Pavlik would add greatly to Calzaghe's legacy. title defences and paper belts mean almost nothing in this day and age. cmon, look at someone like Zsolt Erdie. the guy has around 10 title defences and none of the guys were even worthwhile. does that make him a better Light Heavyweight than someone like Dwight Muhammed Qawi, who only defended his about 4 times? hell no.

the better people that Calzaghe fights, the better his legacy. Me, I would prefer to see Calzaghe try to get as high as he can on ATG lists, and hes not going to do that by ignoring challengers that are worthy of fighting him.

I do want him to fight Pavlik, definitely, but I don't need him to to prove anything to me.

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LOL not only do Calzaghe fans overrate Kessler to make Calzaghe's win better than what it is, now Calzaghe overrates his wins.

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LOL not only do Calzaghe fans overrate Kessler to make Calzaghe's win better than what it is, now Calzaghe overrates his wins.

How many Kessler fights have you seen?

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How many Kessler fights have you seen?

How many Kessler fights actually mattered? I can only think of two. One he lost like every round after 5 and the Mudine fight. What has Kessler done that *****s Pavliks resume.

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How many Kessler fights actually mattered? I can only think of two. One he lost like every round after 5 and the Mudine fight. What has Kessler done that *****s Pavliks resume.

If that is the way you look at boxing you will never know anything about it. Check out Kessler v Andrade and see if you think Mikkel Kessler is overrated.

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How many Kessler fights actually mattered? I can only think of two. One he lost like every round after 5 and the Mudine fight. What has Kessler done that *****s Pavliks resume.

In other words, you know **** all about him and whether he's any good or not!

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If that is the way you look at boxing you will never know anything about it. Check out Kessler v Andrade and see if you think Mikkel Kessler is overrated.

If Andrade is all you can roll out there and that makes you proud to say Kessler is great then fine. I look at Andrade and say hes got a solid chin but nothing special. I say Andrade, Mundine, and a loss to Calzaghe is *****ed by Miranda, and two taylor wins is more impressive.