Does anyone think Margarito could ''Castillio'' Mayweather??

[QuebecSTAR]

His style is very similar and it would defintitely be one of Mayweather's hardest fight. He defintitely wouldn't worry about his power since he ate Cotto and Cintron's best punches.

nobody can beat mayrunner until he stop running and fight like a warrior.

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Castillio was the only fighter to bring that consistant educated pressure on Mayweather and his style resume's Margarito. Where Mayweater would have more probleme with Margarito is that fact that he is a harder puncher than Castillio, has a far better workrate and is more consistant. There were times that Castillio stood in the center of the ring with Mayweather and tried to out box him. The majority of Cotto/Margarito was fought along the ropes. If Cotto doesn't have the power to keep from being backed up, then how would Mayweather keep from being bullied as well? Mayweather has lost use of his jab in recent fights and he gets hit a lot more. He also would have a hard time countering effectively off of the ropes when Margarito keeps his distance and doesn't smoother his punches, getting full leverage on those shots.

But he's much slower than Castillo, especially his footwork, he'd be stalking Mayweather while Mayweather moves around, Cotto isn't as fast as Mayweather both in the handspeed and footspeed departments.

I honestly think Mayweather chooses not to use the jab, it's not that he doesn't have a jab, I just don't think Margarito would be fast enough to catch Mayweather consistently, I think he could catch Mayweather once or twice when Mayweather decides to rest on the ropes but that's about it and Mayweather is much better at moving than Cotto.

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Margarito is a pressure fighter that is far buiser, a harder puncher, naturally bigger and is more skilled than Boldimir. Boldimir is a technical boxer. Its just a completely different quality of fighters and different level of class. An irrelevant comparison IMO.

I find it relevant as their footspeed is about the same, as I said, Margarito being busier would just leave more openings for Mayweather to hit him, Cotto landed so many shots on Margarito, I have no doubt Mayweather would be able to do so for 12 rounds if he fights the way he fought Baldomir.

I'll concede that Margarito is the bigger puncher and more skilled but I don't think it would matter much if he can't catch Mayweather.

[ferocity]

I'm not comparing Baldomir to Margarito, I'm just bringing up an example of how Mayweather could deal with a slow moving guy like Margarito.

Margarito still doesn't use his height to his advantage, that won't change against Mayweather, his activity level would just leave more openings for Mayweather to counter, Margarito is a little faster than Baldomir but it isn't that big a difference, his feet are pretty slow, Mayweather would take advantage of that.

What you think outside a ring isnt a big differnce, makes a big difference in the ring.

Baldomier is nothing like Margarito. Margarito hits way to hard to compare to Baldomier. I might aswell compare Mayweather to Cotto because Cotto was boxing and moving a lot!

You don't have a strong base on why you can compare Baldomier to Margarito when they are not the same fighter.

[slicksouthpaw16]

But he's much slower than Castillo, especially his footwork, he'd be stalking Mayweather while Mayweather moves around, Cotto isn't as fast as Mayweather both in the handspeed and footspeed departments.

I honestly think Mayweather chooses not to use the jab, it's not that he doesn't have a jab, I just don't think Margarito would be fast enough to catch Mayweather consistently, I think he could catch Mayweather once or twice when Mayweather decides to rest on the ropes but that's about it and Mayweather is much better at moving than Cotto.

You are right about Margarito's not being able to catch Mayweather consistantly, but a pressure fighter like Margarito will hit arms, body ect just anything to land and to tire you out. Hatton, Castillio and De La Hoya all were able to rough Mayweather up on the inside and get some effective work done.

You mentioned that Margarito is slower than Castillio, when Margarito was able to do something that Mosley, Judah and Quintana weren't able to do. Which was be able to get to Cotto fast enough to hit him constantly. I also noticed that he did a pretty decent job at cutting off the ring. You may be underrating his speed here. Cotto is not nessecerlly a slow guy with poor footwork.

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What you think outside a ring isnt a big differnce, makes a big difference in the ring.

Baldomier is nothing like Margarito. Margarito hits way to hard to compare to Baldomier. I might aswell compare Mayweather to Cotto because Cotto was boxing and moving a lot!

You don't have a strong base on why you can compare Baldomier to Margarito when they are not the same fighter.

I'm comparing their speed of foot, which is quite similar.

You are right about Margarito's not being able to catch Mayweather consistantly, but a pressure fighter like Margarito will hit arms, body ect just anything to land and to tire you out. Hatton, Castillio and De La Hoya all were able to rough Mayweather up on the inside and get some effective work done.

You mentioned that Margarito is slower than Castillio, when Margarito was able to do something that Mosley, Judah and Quintana weren't able to do. Which was be able to get to Cotto fast enough to hit him constantly. I also noticed that he did a pretty decent job at cutting off the ring. You may be underrating his speed here. Cotto is not nessecerlly a slow guy with poor footwork.

For the first part, Castillo didn't manage to rough Mayweather up in their second fight when Mayweather was 100% healthy and Hatton didn't do much to Mayweather on the inside, Mayweather almost always had superior positioning. DLH did managed to land a few body shots in the clinches when they were up close but again, even at this point, DLH is faster than Margarito.

For the second part, styles make fights.

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Honestly, I don't think Mayweather would ever fight Cotto after what happened tonight, even if the money is there. I think Mayweather would get away from a lot more shot's, but I think Margo would make it very tough for him. Margo just seems physically too much for Mayweather. Everyone has their limits. Jones didn't choose Ruiz over Lewis for nothing.

[slicksouthpaw16]

For the first part, Castillo didn't manage to rough Mayweather up in their second fight when Mayweather was 100% healthy and Hatton didn't do much to Mayweather on the inside, Mayweather almost always had superior positioning. DLH did managed to land a few body shots in the clinches when they were up close but again, even at this point, DLH is faster than Margarito.

For the second part, styles make fights.

I still don't believe that Mayweather was very injured in the first Castillio fight. I seen Mayweather using his left hand anytime that he wanted. Castillio is a good fighter and he fought the perfect game plan. What lets me know that the first fight was no fluke is the fact that the second fight was almost as close as the first one.

Oscar is faster, however Margarito has the seperior stamina and is more use to bringing pressure, unlike De La Hoya who stopped being effective with it really around the 6th round. Also, Hatton had his moments against Mayweather but he did get some good shot in on the inside. Mayweather's face was pretty swollen afterwards like he had been through a tough fight.

[BennyST]

The thing is though that Cotto, for the first half, landed at will on Margarito. When he was jabbing, throwing combination's and then stepping to the side Margarito couldn't even lay a glove on him. Mayweather can and would do that for the whole fight. If Margarito can't even get set to throw his punches and land any body shots Mayweather doesn't need to get respect from Margarito. All he needs to be able to do would be to simply out-speed him.

The big problem with Cotto was that he didn't have the stamina to move as he did for twelve rounds as he has not been fighting that way his whole life. Mayweather has been fighting that way and can keep up the fast, constant footwork and movement that baffled Margarito so much. Mayweather wouldn't let Margarito get to him on the inside enough for him to do any serious damage as he could throw his one or two shot combination's and then be off on his bike before Margarito would even have time to set and throw his combination.

Cotto lost because he isn't used to moving like that for a whole fight. If he had always trained to fight like that he wouldn't have needed to be able to hurt Margarito at all. He would just need to be able to throw his combination's and then move as he was doing so well.

Mayweather can fight like that for a whole fight easily without tiring and Margarito just does not have the speed to be able to catch him enough to wear him down. Cotto didn't mind standing in to trade at times and that is what got his nose busted up and gave him trouble with his breathing. Mayweather would not stand in to trade at all. He would just jab or throw a lead right or something, then wait for Margarito to get set to throw something, dodge or duck then hit him with a counter on his way out and be across the ring before Marg had time to throw another punch.

Mayweather would have a harder fight against Cotto than Margarito I think. Cotto wasn't powerful enough to trade with Margarito and hadn't been boxing that style long enough for it to transition completely into his game with stamina and endurance for twelve rounds of movement. I'm actually starting to think that Mayweather is done for good now and won't come back. Now that Cotto has lost his unbeaten record the only fight I could see Mayweather coming back for would be Pacquiao or something, but, in all reality that just wouldn't happen.

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I still don't believe that Mayweather was very injured in the first Castillio fight. I seen Mayweather using his left hand anytime that he wanted. Castillio is a good fighter and he fought the perfect game plan. What lets me know that the first fight was no fluke is the fact that the second fight was almost as close as the first one.

Oscar is faster, however Margarito has the seperior stamina and is more use to bringing pressure, unlike De La Hoya who stopped being effective with it really around the 6th round. Also, Hatton had his moments against Mayweather but he did get some good shot in on the inside. Mayweather's face was pretty swollen afterwards like he had been through a tough fight.

He had a rotator cuff injury so he couldn't use his left arm like he would have likes and I thought the second fight wasn't as close as the first fight.

The thing is though that Cotto, for the first half, landed at will on Margarito. When he was jabbing, throwing combination's and then stepping to the side Margarito couldn't even lay a glove on him. Mayweather can and would do that for the whole fight. If Margarito can't even get set to throw his punches and land any body shots Mayweather doesn't need to get respect from Margarito. All he needs to be able to do would be to simply out-speed him.

The big problem with Cotto was that he didn't have the stamina to move as he did for twelve rounds as he has not been fighting that way his whole life. Mayweather has been fighting that way and can keep up the fast, constant footwork and movement that baffled Margarito so much. Mayweather wouldn't let Margarito get to him on the inside enough for him to do any serious damage as he could throw his one or two shot combination's and then be off on his bike before Margarito would even have time to set and throw his combination.

Cotto lost because he isn't used to moving like that for a whole fight. If he had always trained to fight like that he wouldn't have needed to be able to hurt Margarito at all. He would just need to be able to throw his combination's and then move as he was doing so well.

Mayweather can fight like that for a whole fight easily without tiring and Margarito just does not have the speed to be able to catch him enough to wear him down. Cotto didn't mind standing in to trade at times and that is what got his nose busted up and gave him trouble with his breathing. Mayweather would not stand in to trade at all. He would just jab or throw a lead right or something, then wait for Margarito to get set to throw something, dodge or duck then hit him with a counter on his way out and be across the ring before Marg had time to throw another punch.

Mayweather would have a harder fight against Cotto than Margarito I think. Cotto wasn't powerful enough to trade with Margarito and hadn't been boxing that style long enough for it to transition completely into his game with stamina and endurance for twelve rounds of movement. I'm actually starting to think that Mayweather is done for good now and won't come back. Now that Cotto has lost his unbeaten record the only fight I could see Mayweather coming back for would be Pacquiao or something, but, in all reality that just wouldn't happen.

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