Hbo Crew:"you Get The Feeling That They Want To See Mayweather Lose"

[Allucard]

i think it's that they tend to go for the more humble of the two fighters, and while jt is a humble guy, he's had some victories that the media has been questioning. meanwhile, pavlik is the young up and coming fighter who also has great discipline and is trying to win over a strong fan base outside of youngstown. so they tend to root for the underdog, or the guy who has more of the nice guy image and less hip hop appeal. look how they used to talk about roy during his fights, and look at how they used to debate with roy when he was commentating with them, same with foreman. however, i do feel that they want to see PBF lose.

I also like Pavlik but i bear to differ, he doesn't need to do **** to gather a fan base anywhere in the states, in fact he would have trouble if he wanted to make them stay away.

[Scott9945]

Provide away...

When Vince Phillips fought Kostya Tszyu, Roy was delighted that his Florida friend was pulling off the upset. You'd have to be deaf not to notice.

When Felix Sturm was boxing Oscar's ears off, Roy was commenting with glee how badly Oscar was getting beaten in the late rounds.

When Wladimir Klitschko was fighting Lamon Brewster, Roy remarked how he would be able to KO Wlad (very unproffessional), and when Klitschko suddenly fell apart he described him as "a dog who can't fight from underneath". Funny that nobody said that about Roy when he got KO'd in his next two fights.

There are more examples, but I'm just going on memory.

On another note, George Foreman was cheering for Vitali Klitschko to beat Lennox Lewis. The reason? George never wanted to fight Lewis but he had a deal worked out to fight Vitali if he won.

During Lewis-Holyfield II, Foreman exclaimed "C'mon Evander" during the 11th round. Once again, he had no interest in fighting Lewis buy wanted a Holyfield rematch.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

When Vince Phillips fought Kostya Tszyu, Roy was delighted that his Florida friend was pulling off the upset. You'd have to be deaf not to notice.

When Felix Sturm was boxing Oscar's ears off, Roy was commenting with glee how badly Oscar was getting beaten in the late rounds.

When Wladimir Klitschko was fighting Lamon Brewster, Roy remarked how he would be able to KO Wlad (very unproffessional), and when Klitschko suddenly fell apart he described him as "a dog who can't fight from underneath". Funny that nobody said that about Roy when he got KO'd in his next two fights.

There are more examples, but I'm just going on memory.

On another note, George Foreman was cheering for Vitali Klitschko to beat Lennox Lewis. The reason? George never wanted to fight Lewis but he had a deal worked out to fight Vitali if he won.

During Lewis-Holyfield II, Foreman exclaimed "C'mon Evander" during the 11th round. Once again, he had no interest in fighting Lewis buy wanted a Holyfield rematch.

I definitely remember Roy being ECSTATIC that Cool vince won... AFTER HE WON.

Can you please provide sound clips (YT) or published articles? ya know... kinda like i did on that whole Arum lie you tried to slip by us.

Otherwise, this is just your interpretation of events that MAY have happened.

[crillz]

Look What Good is it to listen to a broadcast If you know that it is bias...?

Would you go to Fox News TO GET a fair assesment of Barack *****..?

Do you think everything That The Bush Adminstration says about the war in Iraq is true or from thier Point of View...?

THey can not allow themselves to give so much of there opinion that it is perceive that they are actually rooting for one guy to lose.., when they are broadcasting a fight in which All fans are watching just not One fighters fans...


Like I said Before From a Fan Point of View, You are entitled to this opinion about a Floyd...

Because you pay to see him fight

You can be subjective..and bias in your opinion because you paid your hard working money.

But The HBO crew does not pay to see him fight....
They get paid to see him fight...

Therefore they have a responsibility to not call the fight as Fan, but as a Paid and Fair Commentator....

and the problem is, that they dont...

Like I said before They are Paid and have a responsibility to the sport to be FAIR COMMENTATOR'S, not AVID FANS.... SO any bias they have against certain fighters should be set aside as soon as they start calling the fight

The Point Floyd is Trying to Make is that, The HBO crew Calls His fights recently as if they want him to Lose...

What I'm trying to explain to you is that the announcers are out for our best interests because we the people also pay for their jobs, I mean think about it do you think HBO Boxing would exist if not 1 fan saw a fight? with no HBO there's no HBO broadcasters so in regards to that they have to speak in the best interests of the fans, they do keep open minds but they also tell it like it is. the announcers are our voice, they are a direct source to a fighter so when they jump on these fighters it's to do right by the fans and the people who not only pay to see fighters but the people whose money and compiled revenue allows for HBO to pay it's staff and it's whole engineering team. it's the fans who pay for HBO Boxing and there's a certain devotion to us fans that these commentators whom love the sport have for us because it's due to us that they can do that, it's due to us people that Boxing is what it is today, we are how Boxers eat food and pay mortgages so the announcers are just doing right by us and asking fighters the questions we can't ask, saying **** to them that we can't getting the responses we want to hear, has nothing to do with racism homie.

don't copy and paste no post neither homie tell me straight up and down how I'm wrong? they call every single meaningful punch, Jim Lampley and crew call the action properly but they also touch on other **** too, thats what you have to do because if you're an announcer and all you doing is telling me what I JUST SAW HIM THROW I don't really need to be hearing you talk, instead what they do is add a little drama to it and say things to trigger a pool of feedback whether bad or good, they say things but those things are 100% true, you might not like it and it may sound a certain way but as long as it's factual statements then you can't hold it against them. bottom line Floyd brought this upon himself, the job of an announcer is to call **** but to also engage a persons attention, to intensify your voice when something dramatic occurs in an event like a big punch landed or a knockdown and also a tone down in voice when the action is stale, to basically control the mood of the fight and erupt according to the action all while calling the punches accurately.

don't sit here and act like it's wrong for the announcers to have a good interest for the fans, they say what they say because we as a whole can't say it, they say it for us, they meet our demands by addressing our biggest issues regarding the sport and they also offer insight on what they feel about these things, when the action is on they call it, when it's over the build on the current status of whichever particular division or on Boxing overall and I see nothing wrong with that, as harsh as it can get it's always true and thats what matters, remember we don't just pay for fighters, we pay for the network that allows Jim Lampley, Max Kellerman and Emmanuel Steward the jobs they have so don't get it twisted they have a obligation to us fans, they get paid to call fights but it's also threw the same money that these events generate meaning it's also the fans money.

[DIOS DOMINICANO]

[B][I][FONT=Arial]When Wladimir Klitschko was fighting Lamon Brewster, Roy remarked how he would be able to KO Wlad (very unproffessional), and when Klitschko suddenly fell apart he described him as "a dog who can't fight from underneath".

In all fairness to Roy, that "dog" example was not him calling Wlad a dog, per se. Roy pretty consistently used dog and **** references to describe fights and fighters...including himself. He was basically saying that Wlad is a front-runner. Which can be said about alot of fighters...including tyson.

He is just a country boy who like the galleras.

[delipooke]

When Vince Phillips fought Kostya Tszyu, Roy was delighted that his Florida friend was pulling off the upset. You'd have to be deaf not to notice.

When Felix Sturm was boxing Oscar's ears off, Roy was commenting with glee how badly Oscar was getting beaten in the late rounds.

When Wladimir Klitschko was fighting Lamon Brewster, Roy remarked how he would be able to KO Wlad (very unproffessional), and when Klitschko suddenly fell apart he described him as "a dog who can't fight from underneath". Funny that nobody said that about Roy when he got KO'd in his next two fights.

There are more examples, but I'm just going on memory.

On another note, George Foreman was cheering for Vitali Klitschko to beat Lennox Lewis. The reason? George never wanted to fight Lewis but he had a deal worked out to fight Vitali if he won.

During Lewis-Holyfield II, Foreman exclaimed "C'mon Evander" during the 11th round. Once again, he had no interest in fighting Lewis buy wanted a Holyfield rematch.

You've got to add to that the Barrera- Mckinney fight where Roy was all praise on Mckinney even when Barrera was giving him a serious ass -wooping.

[-Swizzy-]

I don't know why its called an 'HBO' bias. each commentator has their own point of view just like every poster in this forum has their own views. I don't see anything wrong with a commentator expressing his own views on a boxer. if a commentator hates on a boxer that I like, I will still respect that cuz they are speaking the truth of what they feel. I'd rather that than fake compliments just for the sake of commentating ethics.

[Horus]

What I'm trying to explain to you is that the announcers are out for our best interests because we the people also pay for their jobs, I mean think about it do you think HBO Boxing would exist if not 1 fan saw a fight? with no HBO there's no HBO broadcasters so in regards to that they have to speak in the best interests of the fans, they do keep open minds but they also tell it like it is. the announcers are our voice, they are a direct source to a fighter so when they jump on these fighters it's to do right by the fans and the people who not only pay to see fighters but the people whose money and compiled revenue allows for HBO to pay it's staff and it's whole engineering team. it's the fans who pay for HBO Boxing and there's a certain devotion to us fans that these commentators whom love the sport have for us because it's due to us that they can do that, it's due to us people that Boxing is what it is today, we are how Boxers eat food and pay mortgages so the announcers are just doing right by us and asking fighters the questions we can't ask, saying **** to them that we can't getting the responses we want to hear, has nothing to do with racism homie.

don't copy and paste no post neither homie tell me straight up and down how I'm wrong? they call every single meaningful punch, Jim Lampley and crew call the action properly but they also touch on other **** too, thats what you have to do because if you're an announcer and all you doing is telling me what I JUST SAW HIM THROW I don't really need to be hearing you talk, instead what they do is add a little drama to it and say things to trigger a pool of feedback whether bad or good, they say things but those things are 100% true, you might not like it and it may sound a certain way but as long as it's factual statements then you can't hold it against them. bottom line Floyd brought this upon himself, the job of an announcer is to call **** but to also engage a persons attention, to intensify your voice when something dramatic occurs in an event like a big punch landed or a knockdown and also a tone down in voice when the action is stale, to basically control the mood of the fight and erupt according to the action all while calling the punches accurately.

don't sit here and act like it's wrong for the announcers to have a good interest for the fans, they say what they say because we as a whole can't say it, they say it for us, they meet our demands by addressing our biggest issues regarding the sport and they also offer insight on what they feel about these things, when the action is on they call it, when it's over the build on the current status of whichever particular division or on Boxing overall and I see nothing wrong with that, as harsh as it can get it's always true and thats what matters, remember we don't just pay for fighters, we pay for the network that allows Jim Lampley, Max Kellerman and Emmanuel Steward the jobs they have so don't get it twisted they have a obligation to us fans, they get paid to call fights but it's also threw the same money that these events generate meaning it's also the fans money.

Crillz, Me and You are on Two Different Sides of the Spectrum when it comes to this Conversation... So in Fairness we must find Common Ground.

This was Probably my most agreeable post from you... You stated Exactly what Commentators roles are in a clear way...

But where I disagree is the appoarch...:

As a Commentator you can call Mayweather on his bull****...But you also have a responsibility to provide context...

As a Commentator you can voice the concerns of the fans, but to be fair you must provide both sides of the argument From and for Both SET OF FANS...NOT JUST ONE...

and more importantly if you go an 5 minute rant of how

"Mayweather is Ducking Cotto"
Equally You give a 5 minute explaining Mayweather's Point of View of not fighting Cotto.


As a commentator you have to wear a Hat that fits on both Sides, not just one. Because like it our not... All Fans Dont agree that

"Mayweather is a *****" or "Mayweather is Scared of Cotto"

Fans of Both Sides, Pay to see Mayweather Fight, Not Just Floyd Haters...


So it would be inappropriate for a commentator to say inflammatory things about Floyd, for one set of Fans, and not give equal representation of an argument for the other set of Fans.

Like I said before:
Would you go to Fox News TO GET a fair assesment of Barack *****..?

And it is starting to get to the point where the HBO CREW are starting to become Floyd Mayweather's FOX NEWS

To drive Home this POINT:

Like I said Before From a Fan Point of View, You are entitled to this opinion about a Floyd...

Because you pay to see him fight

You can be subjective..and bias in your opinion because you paid your hard working money.

But The HBO crew does not pay to see him fight....
They get paid to see him fight...

Therefore they have a responsibility to not call the fight as Fan, but as a Paid and Fair Commentator....

and the problem is, that they dont...

Like I said before They are Paid and have a responsibility to the sport to be FAIR COMMENTATOR'S, not AVID FANS.... SO any bias they have against certain fighters should be set aside as soon as they start calling the fight

The Point Floyd is Trying to Make is that, The HBO crew Calls His fights recently as if they want him to Lose...

[Easy-E]

I agree.
I e****ially noticed that when Lederman was giving Hatton rounds that Floyd blatently won.
And when Floyd tripped over Hatton's foot and no punch was landed and the commentators went absolutly crazy.

[The Narcissist]

They want to see Mayweather fight the best.

Yes it is that simple.