Pacquiao will be remembered as a greater fighter than Mayweather

[Thraxox]

I remember Max Kellerman schooling fanboys in this debate. And to this day, none can refute Kellerman's argument.

[DeadLikeMe]

The Writers in AMERICA. America isn't the only writers of boxing. There is the likes in Mexico, Spain, Puerto Rico, Germany, where they had Pacquiao as the greatest of this Era.

There is no 'objective' view about who is the greatest Era. It's just opinion and its no surprise Americans side with an American, and some of them like Max Kellerman, Jim Lampley, etc. etc. gives Pacquiao the nod of being the greatest fighter of the Era.

Lmao ok the guy who got stopped by bums early in his career, got a boxing lesson from a past-prime Morales, and lost the two most watched fights of his career decisively is really the best.

Nobody except Pinoy pacstans believes Manny is the best anymore, it used to be close but now Floyd is comfortably ahead.

[Thraxox]

Lmao ok the guy who got stopped by bums early in his career, got a boxing lesson from a past-prime Morales, and lost the two most watched fights of his career decisively is really the best.

Nobody except Pinoy pacstans believes Manny is the best anymore, it used to be close but now Floyd is comfortably ahead.

Aye sorry, didn't realized you were a F L 0 M O.

[Combat Talk Radio]

TBE is my favorite fighter of his era but I cant see how Mayweather resume for resume stacks up against Pac.

Pacquiao beat Barrera, Ledwaba, Sasukul, and Marquez at their primes and also beat solid Clottey, decent Hatton, and past prime but decent Cotto being a dude that came from flyweight.

The only way Mayweather at least for me to view as the best of his era is if Canelo ends up being an all time great which I seriously doubt.

Hatton himself is on record that Mayweather beat the best version of him, and Manny beat a shell of his former self.

Let's not also forget, Floyd faced and beat champions - more champions than any other fighter. Floyd went all the way up to Jr. Middle and kept winning. That's not a small achievement, and very few fighters can claim to have done that.

Manny used to, and then he stopped after Marquez first exposed him.

[Thraxox]

Hatton himself is on record that Mayweather beat the best version of him, and Manny beat a shell of his former self.

Let's not also forget, Floyd faced and beat champions - more champions than any other fighter. Floyd went all the way up to Jr. Middle and kept winning. That's not a small achievement, and very few fighters can claim to have done that.

Manny used to, and then he stopped after Marquez first exposed him.

How funny you mention that when Hatton was just coming off great performances off of Luzacano and stopped Malinaggi for the first time in his career. Ricky Hatton at welterweight got a gift against Luiz Collazo.

[Lester Tutor]

How funny you mention that when Hatton was just coming off great performances off of Luzacano and stopped Malinaggi for the first time in his career. Ricky Hatton at welterweight got a gift against Luiz Collazo.

Hi Rath! It's rude to never say hi back

[Combat Talk Radio]

How funny you mention that when Hatton was just coming off great performances off of Luzacano and stopped Malinaggi for the first time in his career. Ricky Hatton at welterweight got a gift against Luiz Collazo.

The same Lazcano that was fresh off a loss?

And as far as Paulie, a victory over him - TKO/KO/whatever - isn't something to applaud. It's meaningless. He's C-level at best.

Now, if you want to talk about accolades, Hatton beating Kostya Tszyu when nobody believed he could is an accolade.

But it doesn't change the fact that Hatton himself is on record saying that the version Manny beat was a pale shadow of the one that faced Floyd.

Remember, this is a guy who was on video with Floyd Sr. talking about avoiding the very punch he got nailed with - and yet got nailed with it anyway. TWICE.

[Thraxox]

The same Lazcano that was fresh off a loss?

And as far as Paulie, a victory over him - TKO/KO/whatever - isn't something to applaud. It's meaningless. He's C-level at best.

Now, if you want to talk about accolades, Hatton beating Kostya Tszyu when nobody believed he could is an accolade.

But it doesn't change the fact that Hatton himself is on record saying that the version Manny beat was a pale shadow of the one that faced Floyd.

Remember, this is a guy who was on video with Floyd Sr. talking about avoiding the very punch he got nailed with - and yet got nailed with it anyway. TWICE.

It doesn't matter if Luzacano was coming off the loss, he was still beaten and Ricky showed that nothing from the mayweather loss affected his performance. Oh and also, Ricky said that he was better at 140 than at 147, would you believe him? He said that he would beat Pacquiao at 140 because it is his natural division, rather than 147.

Paulie wasn't stopped by Miguel Cotto, and even won some round seven against the Rican, but in this fight he got dominated all the way till the stoppage, and what it meant is that the Mayweather loss wasn't even in Ricky's mind no more and didn't even affect him.

[Combat Talk Radio]

It doesn't matter if Luzacano was coming off the loss, he was still beaten and Ricky showed that nothing from the mayweather loss affected his performance. Oh and also, Ricky said that he was better at 140 than at 147, would you believe him? He said that he would beat Pacquiao at 140 because it is his natural division, rather than 147.

Paulie wasn't stopped by Miguel Cotto, and even won some round seven against the Rican, but in this fight he got dominated all the way till the stoppage, and what it meant is that the Mayweather loss wasn't even in Ricky's mind no more and didn't even affect him.

You're talking two nobodies. No credits given. Tszyu - credit given. That's it.

Hatton, it turns out, tried too hard on a bad night, pushed too often and allowed Mayweather to counter him with ease until his face was swollen, his legs tired and the fight drained from his heart. Mayweather put a chilling end to it in round 10 and it was his last legitimate stoppage win.
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There was no animosity, no hidden agenda with the Pacquiao fight, but the preparation was ruined by Floyd Mayweather Sr, the boxer’s estranged father, who had taken over Hatton’s coaching duties from Billy Graham. The mood inside the splintered Hatton group was toxic and, frankly, he should have been spared the fight. However, in May 2009 he was knocked out by Pacquiao in round two and that was the end.

Summary: Hatton was way better prepared and much more focused when he faced TBE. This doesn't even mention the depression and suicidal thoughts he had before he took the Manny fight, and frankly, I don't think his corner would have made a difference. Floyd took and beat the best of him, and with it went his heart.

[IronDanHamza]

How funny you mention that when Hatton was just coming off great performances off of Luzacano and stopped Malinaggi for the first time in his career. Ricky Hatton at welterweight got a gift against Luiz Collazo.

Great performance against Lazcano?

Are you sure?