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    Originally posted by boxingfan4life View Post
    i would say when it comes down to skill and accomplishement yeah mayweather has it. but if you grading based on excitement, heart, and will i would have to say pac man. he may not bring as much dollars as floyd but ive found his fights much more exciting than floyds. and the fact that he has never backed away from a challenge helps alot too. i mean he just said hell fight marquez again even though he gave him a tough fight. thats the attitude of a true warrior of the sport.
    pretty good post but let me add this

    pacs style is more exciting to people who dont know much about the ART of boxing, im more of a technichal boxing freak but i love to watch good scraps also

    floyd rematched castillo immediately after he got a gift decision thats warrior like!

    and as far as pac never dodging a fight he and roach dodged shane mosley

    Roach didn't want this fight. He said Mosley was a different fighter than Oscar, so they had to dehydrate him to fight. Once Shane agreed to fight at the catchweight...and offered Team Pacquiao the greater cut, they sidestepped Shane who was coming off his best victory in KOing Margarito to fight TOP RANK's own Cotto (who was recently KO'd by Margarito). Shane had called him out a thousand times...it was clear he wanted the fight and Pacquiao did not. Agreed?

    they are both great its really no need to compare them they have 2 different styles that get certain people excited,

    but for those saying the other sucks etc they are not boxing fans! none of them suck!

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      Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
      Floyd will always be the fighter who ducked Manny Pacquiao. Everyone in the boxing world knows this. Im not talking about his delusional fans. Floyd cant do anything in boxing now that will take away the dark duck cloud thats over him. JMM stole his thunder. After the shot felt and heard around the world from a mega fight with JMM and Pac....Floyd comes out and fights Guerrero.
      if u want to make this argument then u must admit they ducked eachother with the help of arum end of story... no need for me to bring up 2009 and everything else because u already know the deal!

      to be this one sided and ignorant n not blame both of them including arum for the fight not happening is just ******. im a floyd fan and i see floyds BS and antics and call him out but the fact you cant admit in 2009 (when it mattered the most) pac and arum were the reason the fight fell off then i dont need to talk to u anymore. YOU ARE ALSO NOW THE ONE CALLING FOR RANDOM TESTING... HMMM,,,, and if you also cant admit pac had his next opponents lined up after the marg, shane, and bradley fights which meant there were no negotiations between him and floyd just talk, interviews, and media then ur also ignorant! i can admit floyd flip flopped and talked all kinds of ****** sht. in interviews and contradicted himself alot. but im a different man than u.

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        hahaha resurrection!!!


        Since the Pacquiao fiasco, Mayweather has beaten two Top Three welterweights in Shane Mosley and Victor Ortiz and has engaged in a series of self-destructive mistakes in his personal life. Along the way, his legacy and reputation have been further damaged, likely beyond the point of repair.

        However, what critics push as "being afraid" or "ducking" were merely the actions of someone frozen out of the picture by a jilted former promoter. Since moving up to welterweight, Mayweather has fought every other top fighter not affiliated with Top Rank (including four he was accused of previously ducking).

        If Mayweather is guilty of anything, it's of being pig-headed in going along with Bob Arum's blockade and refusing to even acknowledge any of the Top Rank fighters being kept from him.

        On the other side, if Arum had truly wanted his guys to face Mayweather instead of one another, he would've positioned his fighters within the WBC infrastructure when Mayweather originally held the belt. He could've then forced the issue by having them become mandatory challengers.

        Instead, Margarito, Cotto, and Clottey were positioned in every other organization except the WBC— making it logistically harder for them to fight Floyd.

        As for Pacquiao, well, the fight with Mayweather would've already taken place if not for Team Pacquiao's unwillingness to consider random blood testing on the one occasion there were actual, real negotiations between both sides.

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          Originally posted by 12TRIBEsRiSe View Post
          if u want to make this argument then u must admit they ducked eachother with the help of arum end of story... no need for me to bring up 2009 and everything else because u already know the deal!

          to be this one sided and ignorant n not blame both of them including arum for the fight not happening is just ******. im a floyd fan and i see floyds BS and antics and call him out but the fact you cant admit in 2009 (when it mattered the most) pac and arum were the reason the fight fell off then i dont need to talk to u anymore. YOU ARE ALSO NOW THE ONE CALLING FOR RANDOM TESTING... HMMM,,,, and if you also cant admit pac had his next opponents lined up after the marg, shane, and bradley fights which meant there were no negotiations between him and floyd just talk, interviews, and media then ur also ignorant! i can admit floyd flip flopped and talked all kinds of ****** sht. in interviews and contradicted himself alot. but im a different man than u.
          you blame who you wanna. Floyds insane demands to make the fight happen were so outta reach that they couldnt make it happen. His non willingness to deal in any counter offer from Top Rank. He wanted it his way and his way only. ..like 100% ppvs:WORD: what a joke! All they wanted was 50/50 but Floyd thought that was to much to ask...and his ideas was better. What a moron! You continue to think what you want. You are a small minority on your own.

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            Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
            He also ducked Margartio. And also said he wont fight any tough champions. on his way to retiring again. Health First!

            "I might be a Coward, Bu Bu Bu But Im a rich coward"!
            -Floyd Mayweather
            Stop, You Really Want To Give Pacquiao Credit For Margarito? Margarito Was A Broken Man He Had Been Caught Cheating And Mosley Had Beat Him.That's The Only Thing U Can Since They Fought The Same Guys. You Know Arum Said It Was Dumb For Cotto To FighT Trout, Arum Is Your Guys Boss

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              Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
              Floyd will always be the fighter who ducked Manny Pacquiao. Everyone in the boxing world knows this. Im not talking about his delusional fans. Floyd cant do anything in boxing now that will take away the dark duck cloud thats over him. JMM stole his thunder. After the shot felt and heard around the world from a mega fight with JMM and Pac....Floyd comes out and fights Guerrero.
              Of course. Pacman would gobble him up if they fight.

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                Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
                you blame who you wanna. Floyds insane demands to make the fight happen were so outta reach that they couldnt make it happen. His non willingness to deal in any counter offer from Top Rank. He wanted it his way and his way only. ..like 100% ppvs:WORD: what a joke! All they wanted was 50/50 but Floyd thought that was to much to ask...and his ideas was better. What a moron! You continue to think what you want. You are a small minority on your own.
                same thing can be said about pac and arum

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                  Originally posted by PAC-BOY View Post
                  you blame who you wanna. Floyds insane demands to make the fight happen were so outta reach that they couldnt make it happen. His non willingness to deal in any counter offer from Top Rank. He wanted it his way and his way only. ..like 100% ppvs:WORD: what a joke! All they wanted was 50/50 but Floyd thought that was to much to ask...and his ideas was better. What a moron! You continue to think what you want. You are a small minority on your own.
                  I AGREE THAT 100% OF THE PPV WAS ****** AND 50/50 MADE ALL THE SENSE IN THE WORLD FROM 2009-2011 BUT NONE OF THESE THINGS WERE EVER NEGOTIATED IT WAS JUST SOMETHING HE SAID IN INTERVIEWS PAC HAD FIGHTS LINED UP AND SIGNED... PAC AGREED TO ALL THIS TESING OUTSIDE OF NEGOTIATIONS, SO THAT WAS JUST MEDIA INTERVIEWS AND TALK WHICH DONT MATTER.

                  CAN YOU ADMIT IN 2009 PAC REFUSED THE TESTING ALONG WITH 50/50... HE REFUSED THE TESTING THAT YOU ARE NOW SCREAMING FOR.. IS THIS TRUE OR NOT?

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                    another funny thing about the posters here they love willie pep and rank him very high on their ATG (as i do)

                    but they never mention his famous quote "He who hits and runs away lives to fight another day."

                    and now this style of fighting is seen as being scared or boring... not saying floyd is better than him but he fights with a similar mentality... smh

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                      Originally posted by 12TRIBEsRiSe View Post
                      I AGREE THAT 100% OF THE PPV WAS ****** AND 50/50 MADE ALL THE SENSE IN THE WORLD FROM 2009-2011 BUT NONE OF THESE THINGS WERE EVER NEGOTIATED IT WAS JUST SOMETHING HE SAID IN INTERVIEWS PAC HAD FIGHTS LINED UP AND SIGNED... PAC AGREED TO ALL THIS TESING OUTSIDE OF NEGOTIATIONS, SO THAT WAS JUST MEDIA INTERVIEWS AND TALK WHICH DONT MATTER.

                      CAN YOU ADMIT IN 2009 PAC REFUSED THE TESTING ALONG WITH 50/50... HE REFUSED THE TESTING THAT YOU ARE NOW SCREAMING FOR.. IS THIS TRUE OR NOT?

                      Isnt 50/50 what team pac wanted? Pac refused the testing after being accused
                      of cheating. You go on record and accused the man of cheating then say take the test I want....Id say **** you too! It could have been done more professional. But with that being said...youre dealing with a idiot thug wanna be who beats on women if front of children so its apparent hes not all there to begin with! Like all big fights Floyd could have had...Cotto in 08 & 09 Rematch with DLH would have been BIG $$$ but he wanted to retire:WORD: Margartio....Manny Pacquiao the smallest of them all scared Floyd so much...that he did everything he could to avoid that fight. Arum being the snake in grass that he is....is still not a dumb dude. Hes been doing this longer than dirt been on the ground. He wont make the ignorant demands that Floyd wants....only fighters who are desperate and need a payday will let Floyd make the rules!

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