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    Originally posted by boxer12 View Post
    lol what if paul williams got like crazy power from not cutting to make 147?
    scary **** huh??

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      Williams deserves his respect, I don't know about the loud mouths on his team- but Williams willingness to fight anyone is good to hear.

      I would love to see this fight though, to bad it won't be made.

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        Originally posted by raycorey View Post
        Thats the thing am not shocked at all, the only shock is him wanting to jump straight to fighting the top guy at 160.
        Ballz man...there will never be another Paul Wiliams..he would fight Haye at cruiser if he could.

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          Originally posted by -Antonio- View Post
          There's a reason Williams started at 160 in 2000 and is fighting at 147 in 2008.
          he is 13-0 with 12 Kos at 160 sooo??? what are u talking about, im no5t defending him just saying that ur comment is ******ed

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            williams is very brave
            props to him

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              Originally posted by Shalafi View Post
              Dude let's be honest, cut the crap OK, please? I've never been a Williams fan, prior or after he fought Margarito, I've always thought he didn't belong in this division. I don't need to explain myself to you but since you want to keep pushing the **** I gotta remind you that Williams fairly won that fight and I've said it many times before, he outboxed and outpunched Tony that night, I had the fight even at the 11th round and Williams went ahead and won the 12th. It was Tony's fault he lost, no if's or but's.

              So don't try to spin my words around, this is the perfect example of a regular boxing scene poster, twisting words around to make others think you know what the **** you are talking about. You know exactly what I meant on my original post, stop hanging onto that Somali's nuts.
              You are real corny with that crack about being Somali. I mean you sound like a degenerate. What do you know about Somali's. They are tall or skinny in your pea sized had? Act like you know boxing. Half assed comments like this make you look ******.

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                But what if Williams have the same kind of power Tito Trinidad has?... he sure has the fighting spirit

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                  Originally posted by mr ko View Post
                  Kelly Pavlik would win but is Bob Arum saying that this fight doesn't make sense but Pavlik-Rubio does? So far he's turned down Winky Wright and Paul Williams because we'd rather watch Gary Lockett and Marco Rubio.
                  A good post. Arum is a phony. He used to be a guy who wanted his fighters to fight the best. Since the 1990's we have seen good fights, and we have seen many fights with his fighters not being made also, for his own personal reasons.

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                    Originally posted by lefhooktodabody View Post
                    This is why I'm a fan of the guy. He's a throwback guy he has skill and wants to show it against the best. I doubt he could beat Pavlik though. But he ain't scared.
                    I am very surprised to see many worrying about williams. lol He is 6' 3 and is not the first WW to challenge the MW champ. Williams thinks he matches up very well. Who would not want to see this fight? Why wouldn't a fan want to see this fight. People talk about this cutting weight crap. In boxing, there is no such thing. It always catches up to you. There is no cheating in cutting weight. You would be surprised what boxers think about cuttung weight. That is harmful. Williams makes weight comfortably. He can't fight according to what division a fan thinks he should fiht because of his height. Guys like williams, Caballero, and even Pav are tall for their fivision. If they can make weight so be it. I can't even complain about cotto weighing 140 for many of thoes fights he overpowered those guys. He felt like he could no longer do that and moved to 147 and has felt great. How he fought for a vacant title is beyond me but...lol Anyway, judos to williams. I see this fight if it happened as a good fight for both guys. Who cares what people say about well, if quintana did this, kelly will do this...no, that is a theory.

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                      this is a smart move for paul williams, he has to much business and fights at WW to move up that far in weight, it would also be suicide u dont just jump up 2 divsions to fight a guy who can punch like that and who could be fighting easly at 168

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