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    #11
    I'm saying he won't have a chance it's just highly unlikely that he will win the fight. Pavlik is superior in pretty much everything compared to Calzaghe, except for speed & maybe ring experience. I just don't see Calzaghe winning the fight,and he probably won't fight Pavlik anyways.

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      #12
      Originally posted by The Chosen View Post
      Just like Lacy was a serious fighter, just like Kessler was going to retire Joe Calzaghe....just like Bernard Hopkins was going to ***** slap and destroy Joe Calzaghe.

      Heard it all before.


      NEXT!
      Pavlik destroys Lacy inside 6 rounds , Pavlik is a very hurtful puncher with skills and he hunts you , Hopkins lost but in loosing he showed plenty of the average thats in the current Calzaghe ,, Pavliks very dangerous and what you hear dont matter when you got eyes , I dont think Joe will fight Pavlik , not with the easier Jones along with his ATG reputation just like fighting Hopkins , its the old mans retirement club that I cant see inviting Pavlik to spoil it for them .

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        #13
        After watching kelly's impressive performance i ironically feel that Joe may have a better chance than i thought. Joe has good speed and really good foot movement... that may give kelly problems. BUT IF JOE STAYS in front of kelly and exchanges it's going to be curtains for joe. If he boxes, uses his speed and his foot movement we might have a different outcome.

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          #14
          Originally posted by abadger View Post
          Man you guys crack me up. An incredible performance by Kelly to beat Gary Lockett! Absolute proof that Joe wouldn't have a chance!
          ALL Calzaghe fans crack me up. Joe looked like dog **** against Bernard. Hell, even if Joe was still in his prime, Pavlik would mop the floor with him.

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            #15
            So now Joe is comapred to Gary Lockett. I really have heard it all.

            NEWSFLAsH: Gary lost to Pavlik because he was outclassed, Joe is more than a few steps above Lockett on the "class ladder" and would not be an easy win for Pavlik, not at all.

            All enzo has seen is Pavlik's power, which is nothing new.

            Joe could easily take Pavlik's best punch on the chin and still throw back, has Pavlik proved he could do the same? Not yet he hasn't.

            Anyone who truly believes what the thread starter is trying to imply (Pavlik KO's Calzaghe easily) either doesn't know boxing or is in serious need of institutionalised help.

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              #16
              If Joe fights Jones, they will say he ducked Pavlik. If Joe fights Pavlik they will say he ducked Jones. If he beats the one of them, they will say that the other one would've beaten him.

              If he beats Jones, it's meaningless because Jones is old and shot and would've won 10 years ago.

              If he beats Pavlik, it's meaningless because they never thought that highly of Pavlik in the first place.

              They will pick him to lose but if he wins they will say that it doesn't change anything and they still don't rate him.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Tuplick_shaKur View Post
                Yeah impressive win for Pavlik, Lockett had no chance. I think the only thing that Calzaghe could have against Pavlik is speed, and I am pretty sure pavlik could neutralize that.
                well, calzaghe has speed and awkwardness. I think calzaghe can beat pavlik, but what if pavlik lands that short right hand that hopkins landed??? I don't know if calzaghe will be able to recover especially considering that pavlik is a great finisher.

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                  #18
                  This is hilarious **** from you Americans.

                  "Pavlik looked brilliant!" - How? He stood in front of a man who set him no challenges and could not take his punches, and punched him.

                  "Pavlik will wipe the floor with Joe!" - Because you just watched him KO a C class fighter? Way to assess your man. I'm moving him up to P4P #1 on the strength of that win alone.

                  "Pavlik is better than Joe in all departments" - Except chin, workrate, defense, movement, speed and skill.

                  Kelly is made for Joe Calzaghe, and I and most other Calzaghe fans on this board are absolutely praying that Pavlik is dumb enough to make it. If it comes off, Pavlik loses his O, GUARANTEED.

                  Also, none of you have ever seen Joe against anyone other than Hopkins, have you?

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                    #19
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                    Originally posted by Clegg View Post
                    If Joe fights Jones, they will say he ducked Pavlik. If Joe fights Pavlik they will say he ducked Jones. If he beats the one of them, they will say that the other one would've beaten him.

                    If he beats Jones, it's meaningless because Jones is old and shot and would've won 10 years ago.

                    If he beats Pavlik, it's meaningless because they never thought that highly of Pavlik in the first place.

                    They will pick him to lose but if he wins they will say that it doesn't change anything and they still don't rate him.
                    Trouble is everybody knows Jones is a shadow of his former self , beating a way passed welter in Tito dont make him prime again , Jones is a much easier fight than Pavlik , if Kelly was fighting Jones at 168 I would back Kelly to KO him , I think Joe will not fight Pavlik and take the easy road .

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                      #20
                      I really don't see Joe getting in the ring with Kelly, but I think a fight with RJJ is highly feasible. Not even sure Cal could be RJJ at this point. But, I'm very confident Kelly would beat Joe. I've seen nothing from Joe that tells me he could avoid Kelly's powershots for 12 rounds. Nothing.

                      Kelly just keeps improving in my eyes, much like Cotto.

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