FLoyD FaNs vs. CoTTo FaNs vs. FLoyD HaTers: LET'S CLEAR THE AIR !!!!!!

[Horus]

In america he does. Which is why comparing him to Hatton in Europe is baseless.

I'm not even sure that Floyd got any money off the European PPV numbers. The 850,000 is where he got his Cash from.

Come on Do your research...
Start Quoting me because you keep saying i said things that I didnt say...

Quote Me from this thread if you going to response to me PLEASE...!!!

[Horus]

I personally... agree on everything that Horus said... I want floyd to fight cotto, but it would be even better if cotto raises his stock, get the other 2 belts.... than even I would think cotto has a good chance, because hes even more proven... im not a floyd hugger by any means, i do like how he fights... but i do think cotto needs to win the rest of the belts..

Your probably only one of the few people who read the thread instead of looking at my name and Dissin Me, and didnt even to bother to read the thread....


All my points makes sense if you JUST READ WHERE I AM COMING FROM....


It's makes Sense For Cotto to do what I suggesting he do....
It really makes Sense

[Vladimir303]

Come on Do your research...
Start Quoting me because you keep saying i said things that I didnt say...

Quote Me PLEASE...!!!

I don't have to quote you, I know what you're implying. And I'm telling you that what Hatton brings to the table from Europe does not matter in America.

Financially it does not matter for Floyd because he got paid from HBO PPV results in America, he is contracted to HBO.

Therefore it doesn not really matter what it sold in the U.K.


And if we just talk about popularity alone between Hatton and Cotto without talking PPV's. Cotto has 3.6 million supporters loyal to him win or lose. He does not have to have a personality for them to watch him fight. They know who he is and when he fights and will watch him fight one way or the other regardless of whether they order it or not.

And still, 3.6 in Puerto Rico or not, 1.5 ordering in Manchester or not, Floyd got his money from 850,000 in the U.S.A.

Let's stop the quoting nonsense and start comprehending what's being sad to you unstead of looking for arguements.

[Horus]

I don't have to quote you, I know what you're implying. And I'm telling you that what Hatton brings to the table from Europe does not matter in America.
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First you can only go By what I wrote..Since you dont know what i am thinking , unless you are a mind reader THrough words off a chat room thread.
you have to go off what i presented to you...




Hatton brought a Country with Him...
Puerto Rico is not a country...

Nothing is Bigger than Country vs. Country..
Hatton is white
73% of this country is white
come on man
Hatton has more Pluses than Cotto Has
you know this....

Hatton brings More to the table Than Cotto does PERIOD...




and you cant say Cotto has 3.6 million people supporting him just because 3.6 million people stay in Puerto RicO... You already know whats that Called...


and if 3.6 million people support Cotto answer this
why Hasnt he had a 1 million P.P.V yet..???
or 750,000 P.P.V
OR
650,000 P.P.V
OR
550,000 P.P.V
OR
500,000 P.P.V
OR
400,000 P.P.V

Why havent they supported him then..???
Come on man...



COme on man...

[Vladimir303]

First you can only go By what I wrote..Since you dont know what i am thinking , unless you are a mind reader.
you have to go off what i presented to you...

You're repeating yourself again.

Fact ignored: Floyd did not get paid for 1.5 buys in the U.K. Therefore it doesn't matter if they ordered it or not. 1.5 of Cotto's Rican fans will tune in as well and Floyd will not make a dime from it. All the same financially.

1): I don't have to read your thread to understand what you'r eimplaying, this post is enough.

2)Hatton did not bring a country with him. He brough a roughly 20,000 thousand people. Cotto can round up 20,000 fans just as easly in NY and they don't have to get on a plane to do it either.

3) 70% of whites in America are a non-issue. Hatton needs his fans from the U.K to fly over to America to make him look like a star because he isn't one here in the States. If being white meant everything then HBO PPV would have generated more then just 850,000. Cotto can sell out an arena in NY and he doesn' t need Ricans from Puerto Rico to come there to do it. Hatton cannot sell out an arena without fans crossing the pond from the U.K. There fore your 70% of whites arguement is ridiculous.

[Horus]

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You're repeating yourself again.

Fact ignored: Floyd did not get paid for 1.5 buys in the U.K. Therefore it doesn't matter if they ordered it or not. 1.5 of Cotto's Rican fans will tune in as well and Floyd will not make a dime from it. All the same financially.

1): I don't have to read your thread to understand what you'r eimplaying, this post is enough.

3)Hatton did not bring a country with him. He brough a roughly 20,000 thousand people. Cotto can round up 20,000 fans just as easly in NY and they don't have to get on a plane to do it either.

3) 70% of whites in America are a non-issue. Hatton needs his fans from the U.K to fly over to America to make him look like a star because he isn't one here in the States. If being white meant everything then HBO PPV would have generated more then just 850,000. Cotto can sell out an arena in NY and he doesn' t need Ricans from Puerto Rico to come there to do it. Hatton cannot sell out an arena without fans crossing the pond from the U.K>

Valdimor are you trying to win a Argument or do you actually believe this Stuff...!!!

1): I don't have to read your thread to understand what you'r eimplaying, this post is enough.

Yea....You dont have to read to understand things Now.....

So i guess you didnt have to read your History Books in School to know all about your History...or you probably read one page and said you know enough..

So i guess you understood Your Religous Bible without Reading it either..

I can go on and on but you get the point..

2)Hatton did not bring a country with him. He brough a roughly 20,000 thousand people. Cotto can round up 20,000 fans just as easly in NY and they don't have to get on a plane to do it either.

I said nothing is Bigger than Country vs. County
Joe Louis Prove that....

3.) 3) 70% of whites in America are a non-issue.

So Hatton being a GOOD White fighter vs.a Great black Figheter

in 70% White America had nothing to do with Sales..???



You cant believe none of this... I think you are arguing to argue...

[Vladimir303]

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Valdimor are you trying to win a Argument or do you actually believe this Stuff...!!!

1): I don't have to read your thread to understand what you'r eimplaying, this post is enough.

Yea....You dont have to read to understand things Now.....

So i guess you didnt have to read your History Books in School to know know all about your history History...or you probably read one page and said you know enough..

So i guess you understood Your Religous Bible without Reading it either..

I can go on and on but you get the point..

When you don't have the capability to summerize your points on a message board and write a friggin novel going on a long rant, then don't expect somebody to debate you point for point.

2)Hatton did not bring a country with him. He brough a roughly 20,000 thousand people. Cotto can round up 20,000 fans just as easly in NY and they don't have to get on a plane to do it either.

I said nothing is Bigger than Country vs. County
Joe Louis Prove that....

Country vs Country nothing. I told you 3.6 in Puerto Rico. It may not be a country but it's 3.6 million nonetheless. But we're talking what's good for Floyd's banking account. Neither the 1.5 in the U.K or the 3.6 in PR don't do anything for Floyd's pocket. Only the ones who Pay for the ticket or order the PPV in America.

850,000 homes and 20,000 in attendance.

3.) 3) 70% of whites in America are a non-issue.

So Hatton being a GOOD White fighter vs.a Great black Figheter

in 70% White America had nothing to do with Sales..???



You cant believe none of this... I think you are arguing to argue...

I don't believe this and NOBODY in here believes this but you. Hatton/Mayweather was not Holmes/Cooney. It did not stirr up any racial tensions. It was Ricky Hatton's fans from the U.K vs the American fans. It can be Puerto Rican fans vs Floyd if they fights and a large portion of them will be in attendance for the fight.

850,000 viewers in America does not seem like a big White vs Black war that peaked the interest of of all 70% of caucasians in America.

Facts don't lie.

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see this is why i can dig what Vladimir303 posts from time to time. HE USES PLAIN AND BASIC COMMON SENSE!

[Horus]

Puerto Rico has 3.6 million people and Cotto is a well known figure around there.

I told you 3.6 in Puerto Rico. It may not be a country but it's 3.6 million nonetheless. But we're talking what's good for Floyd's banking account. Neither the 1.5 in the U.K or the 3.6 in PR

3.6 million is what he brings to the table

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*You cant say Cotto has 3.6 million people supporting him just because 3.6 million people stay in Puerto RicO... You already know whats that Called...


* You are Sterotyping A Entire CommenWealth Of people and it is borderline Racist..
to say that ALL 3.6 MilliON PEOPLE in Puerto Rico support Cotto basically because he is Puerto Rican.. And everybody in Puerto Rico is not Puerto Rican have you thought of that..???

So stop saying 3.6 Million People
and Start going off his P.P.V numbers like i am doing with hatton...
1.4 Million people supported Hatton and Mayweather in his last Last fight..
and i didnt say Hatton brings all of the 37 million people who stayed in the Manchester (Just a number I dont know if it's 37 million or not)

but the point is that you cant just sterotype people...

For Cotto only his P.P.V numbers Suggest only maybe 350,000 People Support Cotto and that is A FACT supported by numbers....


NOT STEROTYPES...

So stop Sterotyping Puerto Ricans. AND Puerto Rico

[Vladimir303]

*You cant say Cotto has 3.6 million people supporting him just because 3.6 million people stay in Puerto RicO... You already know whats that Called...


* You are Sterotyping A Entire CommenWealth and it is borderline Racist..
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To Puerto Ricans, boxing is the # 1 sport. And nationality is everything, it has nothing to do with being stereotypical or racist. You're assuming things.


If you wanna point out racism, then you need to look at yourself and your ridiculous theory (which was disproved) that becuase there are 70% whites in America, that the fight between Hatton and Mayweather was somehow A REAL BIG EVENT that Cotto/Mayweather cannot break.

That's simply not true. You talk about about facts supported by numbers.

Fact: 850,000 in America for paid PPV.....nothing more.


Cotto/Mayweather can break that number.