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    #71
    Originally posted by GunStar View Post
    He's a tall skinny guy, who fights small. He really does not take advantage of his height or reach.

    I will still pick him over many of the top welterweight, I can't call the man overrated after one bad night, considering the fight should've been a draw and he still should have his belt.
    Dont confuse me saying he is Overrated with me underrating him..

    he simply had done NOTHING to earn the Lofty status that had been placed on him.. Goony..people were saying he would beat Floyd Mayweather..
    How ****ing insane is THAT???

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      #72
      Originally posted by kayjay View Post
      In a thread (from July) that I bumped last night, it was argued over whether Williams would be a tougher opponent for Floyd than Hatton. I insisted Hatton was a tougher match, but everyone read is as if I were claiming Hatton could beat Williams.
      There are a million examples of why the triangle theory doesn't work in boxing but people still try to use it.

      Frazier beats Ali, Foreman destroys Frazier - making Foreman a huge favorite against Ali (we all know how that went.)

      Jerry Quarry TKO 1 Earnie Shavers, Earnie Shavers KO 1 Jimmy Ellis, but Jimmy Ellis M15 Jerry Quarry.

      etc
      etc
      etc.

      Just because Quintana beat Williams who beat Margarito doesn't mean that neither Williams or Margarito would stand a chance against Cotto (who beat Quintana.)
      Last edited by Jim Jeffries; 02-10-2008, 12:19 PM.

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        #73
        Originally posted by Welter_Skelter View Post
        Dont confuse me saying he is Overrated with me underrating him..

        he simply had done NOTHING to earn the Lofty status that had been placed on him.. Goony..people were saying he would beat Floyd Mayweather..
        How ****ing insane is THAT???
        Skelty, I agree with you, when people were picking him against Floyd. What I'm saying you can't call the man overrated and exposed after one off night, a fight that should've been a draw. Williams will be a tough fight for any welterweight and that includes Floyd.

        The reason William was getting all the hype is,

        A) He beat the the most feared man in boxing.
        B) Most boxers did not want to fight him
        C) He's 6' 2" Welterweight
        D) He has the same reach as Wlad

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