NEWSFLASH: MORALES will not move up without PACQUIAO

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lol Come on, I know Manny's your boy and all.
But do you honestly and most importantly, logically see Manny beating Morales?
Even by points do you see him winning?

I don't.

Also I think Manny would look pretty funny in his usual "no fear" attire, fake smile, and a propeller cap.

Here's the line: Morales never ko'd Barrera; Barrera fell before Pacman (how many times?) Barrera took Morales' best; Manny took Barrera's best but barely winced. Morales never drove Barrera back with any consistency. Barrera was back-pedalling most of the time with Manny. Logical nuff? No? Ok. It's just how one floats his boat. Re- propeller cap, that's still down the road. We'll see, if Arum gives us a chance. As for Barrera, he's the one wearing one right now after he met Manny. But not to worry, there's enough to go around. I hear someone here is saving one for Morales.

[Dr Cynical]

Here's the line: Morales never ko'd Barrera; Barrera fell before Pacman (how many times?) Barrera took Morales' best; Manny took Barrera's best but barely winced. Morales never drove Barrera back with any consistency. Barrera was back-pedalling most of the time with Manny. Logical nuff? No? Ok. It's just how one floats his boat. Re- propeller cap, that's still down the road. We'll see, if Arum gives us a chance. As for Barrera, he's the one wearing one right now after he met Manny. But not to worry, there's enough to go around. I hear someone here is saving one for Morales.

But also look at Barrera.
He isn't what he used to be, not when he fought Morales.

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Who should Morales go after once he's done with Pac?

Hmm I think he should fight Corrales for the soon to be vacant WBC Lightweight championship of the world.

[Dr Cynical]

Hmm I think he should fight Corrales for the soon to be vacant WBC Lightweight championship of the world.

Interesting..
Why do you think he should fight Corrales?
How do you see this fight going?

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But also look at Barrera.
He isn't what he used to be, not when he fought Morales.

I'm looking and don't like what I'm seeing. Remember Barrera had brain surgery in 1997? He was not the Barrera that everyone feared prior to 1997 that Morales met two times. Had the two Barrera- Morales meetings set up Barrera for the Pacquiao kill, that is to say, Barrera was too much of a damaged property when Pacquiao met him because of Morales? That can be argued. But it can also be said that even being relatively fresh from surgery, Barrera survived Morales two times, the decisions in both, controversial. So, Barrera stood before Morales; Pacquiao decked Barrera and went on to TKO him. Barrera is the only person who met both Manny and Morales in the ring. Those are the facts. The rest is commentary.

[Dr Cynical]

I'm looking and don't like what I'm seeing. Remember Barrera had brain surgery in 1997? He was not the Barrera that everyone feared prior to 1997 that Morales met two times. Had the two Barrera- Morales meetings set up Barrera for the Pacquiao kill, that is to say, Barrera was too much of a damaged property when Pacquiao met him because of Morales? That can be argued. But it can also be said that even being relatively fresh from surgery, Barrera survived Morales two times, the decisions in both, controversial. So, Barrera stood before Morales; Pacquiao decked Barrera and went on to TKO him. Barrera is the only person who met both Manny and Morales in the ring. Those are the facts. The rest is commentary.

I think the Morales fights took something out of him.
Also, he didn't look that good in the Pac fight.
Not like he did in his other fights.

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Interesting..
Why do you think he should fight Corrales?
How do you see this fight going?

I think Diego would be more open to Morales shots and not have the speed to give him trouble like Juan Diaz.

Diego goes down when the punches are right on the button (his chin), and that is Morale's strength. He will tag diego on the righ on the chin repeatedly and it will look a lot like when Diego fought mayweather.

They wont be damaging shots but diego will keep going down. His corner and the ref wont have a choice.

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I think the Morales fights took something out of him.
Also, he didn't look that good in the Pac fight.
Not like he did in his other fights.

I agree. But what other data is there to base any speculation on other than Barrera? Marquez never had a crack on Morales (not that I know of any wish of his in that direction). Morales' other opponents never met Pacquiao and vversa. So, beyond those facts, one can only rely on one's instincts, or, yes, biases. And those instincts and biases differ from fan to fan. I guess that's why we're having loads of fun on these pages, right?

[Dr Cynical]

I agree. But what other data is there to base any speculation on other than Barrera? Marquez never had a crack on Morales (not that I know of any wish of his in that direction). Morales' other opponents never met Pacquiao and vversa. So, beyond those facts, one can only rely on one's instincts, or, yes, biases. And those instincts and biases differ from fan to fan. I guess that's why we're having loads of fun on these pages, right?

lol Yes and we will continue having fun.
Even after the fight because we will be arguing over the end.

[Dr Cynical]

I think Diego would be more open to Morales shots and not have the speed to give him trouble like Juan Diaz.

Diego goes down when the punches are right on the button (his chin), and that is Morale's strength. He will tag diego on the righ on the chin repeatedly and it will look a lot like when Diego fought mayweather.

They wont be damaging shots but diego will keep going down. His corner and the ref wont have a choice.

You don't think Corrales has the power to beat Morales?