How Spain saw Mayweather vs Pacquiao.(English subbed) must watch

[SUCIO416]

Cawksucking balut eaters at it again

[Spoon23]

Yes and if Floyd fights Manny for a second time and wins a second time it will be another injury. A third time, Manny loses again...injury! Turtles all the way down. Top Rank knows how ******ed Manny's core fanbase is, we're talking fully grown men who were distraught by Manny losing his shoe deal.

If its in Vegas. Off course that's an automatic win for Froid again. That's a no brainer. Outside Vegas, which we all know he's got no balls to fight elsewhere, where he is not protected. That will be a win for Pac for sure.

If with no USADA favoritism, no nsac favoritism, no Nevada judges favoritism, no IVS to mask his peds, no biased compubox, no bookies to control the odds in the casino. Then yes, Pac will this fight hands down.

But we all know that won't happen. So no Need for a 2nd fight.

anyway, Pac with all the disadvantage stacked against him that night, the majority of the world saw him power through with only just one arm to boot.

Legendary.

[Spoon23]

There is never any harm in investigating a situation. I think there is something to be said for boxing fans taking ownership of decisions. In the old days the fight was scored by reporters...In those days reporters were often rough and tumble types who knew a thing or two about fighting...and there was the occasional Jack London, a literary genius. When refs were involved with the scoring it was also not necessarily a bad thing considering the view the ref has of the action.

The problem with judging is a problem one sees in martial arts technique as well...subtlety is often missed. The best martial artists are the ones who make the person think they have connected...but in a point fighting scenerio, for example, one cannot use this level of subtlety.

One thing that the slo mo situation brings out are a couple of instances where Manny did in fact slip a shot from Floyd and catch him. Its just sad that a manuever like that has to go by the wayside because judges cannot catch it and no judge can catch these slips because the hand is quicker than the eye.

To compensate for these situations and to give closure boxing has become more and more dependent upon punchstat numbers. This favors the somewhat indiscriminate process of throwing lots of punches at all times...so we have guys like Joe Calzaghe who slaps away, often with poor form and little else.

As Zaroku has said this fight was not a robbery...it was close and Manny should have really taken more risk to cement any advantage he thought he had. Floyd is very good at making things look effortless, and at stealing a round with a potshot well placed. There were rounds were Manny was the aggressor, hit Floyd's body and Floyd won the round on the judge's cards because of a few jabs.

But Spoon's critique has merit. I understand as well that Floyd fans think they deserve closure. the fight happened and floyd got the nod so lets move on...and so the argument for Floyd goes. The truth is that neither guy won that fight in a way where real closure is possible because neither guy had the balls to risk losing, or the ability to show clearly that they are the better fighter historically.

A fine example of this situation is when Lewis fought Holyfield the first time and the decision was percieved as a robbery. Holyfield made the comment that Lewis should have knocked him down, or out. Lewis won that fight but Holy had a point...Lewis had Holy several times and didn't want to take the risk, didn't want to put the exclamation point on the victory, and as a result, lewis allowed the judges to rob him.

Its sad that this fight was such a letdown. floyd did use Vegas and homecourt advantage...the fight was seen his way when it could have been seen from the perspective of Manny being the aggressor, throwing more punches when Floyd was against the ropes, etc. Floyd banked on this advantage and he was right. So did he win this fight? well...neither guy lost, both guys made sure there was never a confrontation in the ring that put them at risk of losing and the judges saw the fight from the perspective of floyd's strong suite, and not Manny's, thats the bottom line.

Spoony reminds us of this fact...he is the gad fly, he will not allow closure when in fact very little of anything was determined by this fight, other than both men are capable of avoiding confronting each other, vis a vis, both men are risk averse and would rather walk away leaving much in the ring, than risk losing because everything was left in the ring for the sake of showing domination over the opponent.

don't get mad at Spoon....get mad at the fighters, both of them. Hurt arm, r not, with this much on the line if you really wanted it you would have gone for it Manny. Floyd, you always took the easy way out which is why you will never be the man.

Well said bud.

Cheers!

[Spoon23]

im over the fight. but you can't deny all these people around the world who thought pac won, despite fighting with one arm a roided up floyd

Yup the fight is part of history now.

And the fight also shows that the one who should have lost this fight won in this rigged fight.

[billeau2]

Yes and if Floyd fights Manny for a second time and wins a second time it will be another injury. A third time, Manny loses again...injury! Turtles all the way down. Top Rank knows how ******ed Manny's core fanbase is, we're talking fully grown men who were distraught by Manny losing his shoe deal.

Turtles all the way down is a very interesting metaphor, I doubt very many know the reference. It does describe well the point you are making, Aristotle through to Aquinas used the image of turtles on the back of turtles to describe what Aristotle first termed the "maker cause," and the subsequent chain of causality.

[billeau2]

Cawksucking balut eaters at it again

I dare say:

There are probably many hetero***ual men through and through, who might well take a kok in the mouth rather than have to bite into balut! Especially if told what the soft crunchy pieces are.

[Spoon23]

yeah! spain also say, Myweather will win

Then after watching the fight during and after.. They felt robbed lol

[2120]

Where were these pacfans ignoring the official decision and embracing the view from foreign broadcast of the fight for Marquez vs pac 1, 2, and especially the 3rd fight??









I didn't see Floyd dominate all he did was move around the ring and play keep away and he was better at that then what his opponent brought to the table

[Zaroku]

Turtles all the way down is a very interesting metaphor, I doubt very many know the reference. It does describe well the point you are making, Aristotle through to Aquinas used the image of turtles on the back of turtles to describe what Aristotle first termed the "maker cause," and the subsequent chain of causality.

Please post this for me.... From my SoftBank phone I can't properly post videos...




PAC lost. Close Bly counts in horse shoes, and hand gerenafes...

Spoon, feed the hungry, shelter the homeless, clothe the naked...

You look ****** droning on about this...

Help real people... And preach the message of your lord and savior manny...

I'm getting to old for this ****** crap

[boxinggod101]

zzzzzzzzzzzzz Manny lost get over it... Im a Pac fan as a boxer but he lost that fight. I had it 8-4. Stop it! There is other fighters and fight coming up, lets move on lol