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[travestyny]

…you believed EPO was a threshold substance, didn’t you?
Admit you are wrong.

SO TO BE CLEAR, its not whether they found EPO, which is naturally produced in the body. Its if they found traceable amounts that they meet a certain criteria. If they have a result that is somewhat ambiguous then it does NOT meet the threshold acceptance criteria!

AND YOU ARE STILL TALKING ABOUT A THRESHOLD. LMAOOOO. POST UP THE THRESHOLD. YOU ARE WRONGGGGG.

Thanks Spoon.

Yup, Travestyny is the champ when it comes to DEFLECTING.

Shut up, bltch. Let's watch you deflect about EPO. I'm waitinggggggg. lmaooo

Get ready to lose all credibility. Step up, son!

You said this and I told you that you were wrong. Now you are agreeing that YOU WERE WRONG!!!

What? I'm agreeing that I was wrong?


Never happened, you cowardly imbecile. You aren't fooling anyone.

Now stop ducking the question and answer.

IS EPO A THRESHOLD SUBSTANCE?????? YES OR NO. HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO ASK YOU?

Hmmm, maybe you still do not know about EPO?
Here is a definition of Threshold. Got it now? If you still need more info, I will be more than glad to provide it for you ..... see no DUCKING from me.

Threshold: The magnitude or intensity that must be exceeded for a certain reaction, phenomenon, result, or condition to occur or be manifested.

DUCKINGGGG!!!!!! YOU STILL DIDN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION.


IS.....EPO....A....THRESHOLD...SUBSTANCE!!!!!! LOOK AT YOU ****ING SQUIRMING.

EPO: Man, your definition is saying pretty much similar. You see, its not just concentration. There are other parameters!!!

BTW - Yes, I was looking at WADA documents .....

Thank you for still blatantly ducking. I'm gonna compile another list of this shlt. Let's try again.

IS EPO A THRESHOLD SUBSTANCE? Yes or no???

didn't you add HGH as a threshold substance?

So, are you ready to answer? Is EPO a threshold substance? Yes or no. The list of ducks is growing!

Man, even with Spoon you are trying to correct his spelling, .....

Yes, YOU'RE da Zzoup ****!!!

Shouldn't you be admitting that you are wrong about EPO instead of worrying about my critique of Spoon's spelling?

Let's try this yet again. Is EPO a threshold substance? This requires a simple "yes" or "no." Are you ever going to stop ducking and deflecting so that you can answer this question?

Remember that he is a DEFLECTOR .... so he will deflect what you say!!! Meaning, he will come back!

WOWWW. You still going about this deflector thing:


yet you still won't answer my simple question? LMAOOOO


IS EPO A THRESHOLD SUBSTANCE? YES OR NO?

LOOK WHO IS DUCKING and DEFLECTING! LMAOOOO.

I see 2 of you in that picture! So you do have a twin!

I always called you "OLD" and "NEW" Travestyny!


I answered you already! I provided a definition of what Threshold is .... seems like you did not get it.

LMAOOOOO. THAT IS NOT AN ANSWER. IS EPO A THRESHOLD SUBSTANCE? I DIDN'T ASK WHAT THRESHOLD MEANS, CLOWN. STOP DEFLECTING!!!!

LMAOOOOOO. GAME OVER, CLOWN!!!

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[Spoon23]

Remember that he is a DEFLECTOR .... so he will deflect what you say!!! Meaning, he will come back!

Yeah, at this point he's lost it like Bambam, he has blocked all knowledge of the past conversation or he chooses not to accept what has transpired to get to this point. He's on the edge. I worry for his health. At this point, the guy has mental issues, he's lost his way. I do get him though, he obviously likes debating, but realizing he is bad at it. It must be hard for him to take. Liking something and not being good at it must really eat him up deep inside.

TravestyNy is trapped in his own dementia. I sometimes blame myself for putting these fl0mos to the edge hahahaha!!

[travestyny]

Yeah, at this point he's lost it like Bambam, he has blocked all knowledge of the past conversation or he chooses not to accept what has transpired to get to this point. He's on the edge. I worry for his health. At this point, the guy has mental issues, he's lost his way. I do get him though, he obviously likes debating, but realizing he is bad at it. It must be hard for him to take. Liking something and not being good at it must really eat him up deep inside.

TravestyNy is trapped in his own dementia. I sometimes blame myself for putting these fl0mos to the edge hahahaha!!

You must have just missed how your boy ADP02 just blatantly ducked me.

I own both of you clowns. LMAO. You two little bltches belong together.

But hey, the good news is that maybe he can wear those pink slippers with you!!! LMAOOOOO!!!!!!!!

[Spoon23]

I see 2 of you in that picture! So you do have a twin!

I always called you "OLD" and "NEW" Travestyny!


I answered you already! I provided a definition of what Threshold is .... seems like you did not get it.

That's some of his other forms ADP02, sometimes he morphs into something else too bud. TravestyNY has many forms be aware my friend be aware.

Like this pic. I see TravestyNY in this pic as well. I don't know why...



and sometimes, it's a simple virus that clogs up the system. I've spotted it too. It's called TravestyNY bwahahahaha!! A relentless bug that won't go away. I tried all kinds of anti virus software. It's embedded too deep to remove. lololololol

[travestyny]

That's some of his other forms ADP02, sometimes he morphs into something else too bud. TravestyNY has many forms be aware my friend be aware.

Like this pic. I see TravestyNY in this pic as well. I don't know why...



and sometimes, it's a simple virus that clogs up the system. I've spotted it too. It's called TravestyNY bwahahahaha!! A relentless bug that won't go away. I tried all kinds of anti virus software. It's embedded too deep to remove. lololololol

You keep begging me to leave.

I told you. I own this shlt. Go ask ADP02 to wear those pink slippers with you. You were begging for someone to play dress-up with you, right? LMAO!

I'll wear this pink flip-flops first, Then you.

Better yet, I'll wear it now, wore this nice pink Flip Flops.

DONE!

[ADP02]

LMAOOOOO. THAT IS NOT AN ANSWER. IS EPO A THRESHOLD SUBSTANCE? I DIDN'T ASK WHAT THRESHOLD MEANS, CLOWN. STOP DEFLECTING!!!!

LMAOOOOOO. GAME OVER, CLOWN!!!

[CENTER]

Are you serious? I do not duck. My name is NOT Travestyny THE DEFLECTOR!!!!

LMAOOOOO. THAT IS NOT AN ANSWER. IS EPO A THRESHOLD SUBSTANCE? I DIDN'T ASK WHAT THRESHOLD MEANS, CLOWN. STOP DEFLECTING!!!!

LMAOOOOOO. GAME OVER, CLOWN!!!

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You always do this. You come back with NOTHING and say "Game Over".

Examples:
You had no proof for Diaz but you thought you were right by using UNRELIABLE DATA!


Diaz's marijuana Initial Screening test vs the Confirmation test by
QUEST: They came back and said Diaz failed BOTH times!

SMRTL said it was negative and when its a negative, you do not need to do a confirmation test for marijuana. Your comeback was that it had to be the confirmation test .... yet nothing as evidence. QUEST gave both values (Screening and Confirmatio), SMRTL just 1 ....




Same here with EPO.
You came back with nothing much.

How they test EPO is not the same as how they test those other substances. They have other documents for EPO and they state that there are certain criteria to verify if its indeed synthetic EPO. They state that there is no certainty as saying "The athletes THC metabolite levels are 500 ng/ml and that is more than the threshold of 150 ng/ml".

Again, for EPO they use other criteria. One reason is because EPO is naturally found in the human body. So they need to be sure that they are seeing the illegal stuff. Sometimes its hard to distinguish with a high percentage of certainty. If they are only 40% sure, as an example, then that does NOT meet the THRESHOLD to consider it a positive test.

You brought up a test that they perform. Was that solely about a quantifiable concentration level? NO! They based it on a number of factors including the intensity of the band. Depending on the test, for one criteria, to be an illegal substance the intensity factor had to be at least double. That is the definition of a threshold!!! If its less than double, it does not meet the threshold limit.

THRESHOLD: The magnitude or intensity that must be exceeded for a certain reaction, phenomenon, result, or condition to occur or be manifested.

"nothing happens until the signal passes the threshold"

Also, they have the so-called "su****ious" cases when testing. What do you think that means? It means that the result that they had suggested that the athlete was using EPO but that it does NOT meet the threshold criteria defined for EPO!!!!


That is why I asked you to respond to your statements. Athletes can have synthetic EPO still in their body and it may be looked at to be "su****ious" but that does NOT mean that they would come back with a positive result like you implied below. You made it sound like it's black and white.

Nope, there is a threshold that must be met.

travestyny - Non-Threshold substances that are present would be flagged.

So its that time again. You know ..... for YOU to come back and DEFLECT AGAIN instead of redeeming yourself and just stating that YOU WERE WRONG!!!


.

[ADP02]

That's some of his other forms ADP02, sometimes he morphs into something else too bud. TravestyNY has many forms be aware my friend be aware.

Like this pic. I see TravestyNY in this pic as well. I don't know why...



and sometimes, it's a simple virus that clogs up the system. I've spotted it too. It's called TravestyNY bwahahahaha!! A relentless bug that won't go away. I tried all kinds of anti virus software. It's embedded too deep to remove. lololololol

Whoooa! You caught Trav on the move!

Hard to catch a DEFLECTOR ....

[travestyny]

Are you serious? I do not duck. My name is NOT Travestyny THE DEFLECTOR!!!!





You always do this. You come back with NOTHING and say "Game Over".

Examples:
You had no proof for Diaz but you thought you were right by using UNRELIABLE DATA!


Diaz's marijuana Initial Screening test vs the Confirmation test by
QUEST: They came back and said Diaz failed BOTH times!

SMRTL said it was negative and when its a negative, you do not need to do a confirmation test for marijuana. Your comeback was that it had to be the confirmation test .... yet nothing as evidence. QUEST gave both values (Screening and Confirmatio), SMRTL just 1 ....




Same here with EPO.
You came back with nothing much.

How they test EPO is not the same as how they test those other substances. They have other documents for EPO and they state that there are certain criteria to verify if its indeed synthetic EPO. They state that there is no certainty as saying "The athletes THC metabolite levels are 500 ng/ml and that is more than the threshold of 150 ng/ml".

Again, for EPO they use other criteria. One reason is because EPO is naturally found in the human body. So they need to be sure that they are seeing the illegal stuff. Sometimes its hard to distinguish with a high percentage of certainty. If they are only 40% sure, as an example, then that does NOT meet the THRESHOLD to consider it a positive test.

You brought up a test that they perform. Was that solely about a quantifiable concentration level? NO! They based it on a number of factors including the intensity of the band. Depending on the test, for one criteria, to be an illegal substance the intensity factor had to be at least double. That is the definition of a threshold!!! If its less than double, it does not meet the threshold limit.



Also, they have the so-called "su****ious" cases when testing. What do you think that means? It means that the result that they had suggested that the athlete was using EPO but that it does NOT meet the threshold criteria defined for EPO!!!!


That is why I asked you to respond to your statements. Athletes can have synthetic EPO still in their body and it may be looked at to be "su****ious" but that does NOT mean that they would come back with a positive result like you implied below. You made it sound like it's black and white.

Nope, there is a threshold that must be met.





So its that time again. You know ..... for YOU to come back and DEFLECT AGAIN instead of redeeming yourself and just stating that YOU WERE WRONG!!!


.

Look at this shlt. Blah blah blu ****ing blah. Yet...no answer to my question!


IS EPO A THRESHOLD SUBSTANCE, ADP02? YES OR NO?


WHY ARE YOU DUCKING AND DEFLECTING???? LMAOOOOOO!!!!!!

Threshold Substance: An exogenous or endogenous Prohibited Substance, Metabolite or Marker of a Prohibited Substance which is analyzed quantitatively and for which an analytical result (concentration, ratio or score) in excess of a pre-determined Decision Limit constitutes an Adverse Analytical Finding. Threshold Substances are identified as such in the Technical Document on Decision Limits (TD DL).


GO FIND EPO IN THE TECHNICAL DOCUMENT ON DECISION LIMITS. HERE IS THE LINK:




ADMIT THAT YOU ARE WRONG...WHAT'S TAKING YOU SO LONG TO ADMIT IT????? LMAOOOO!!! TRYING TO BRING UP NICK DIAZ (WHEN EVEN KEVIN IOLE BASICALLY CALLED YOU A MORON FOR YOUR BELIEF).

DEFLECTORRRR!!!!!

[ADP02]

Are you serious? I do not duck. My name is NOT Travestyny THE DEFLECTOR!!!!





You always do this. You come back with NOTHING and say "Game Over".

Examples:
You had no proof for Diaz but you thought you were right by using UNRELIABLE DATA!


Diaz's marijuana Initial Screening test vs the Confirmation test by
QUEST: They came back and said Diaz failed BOTH times!

SMRTL said it was negative and when its a negative, you do not need to do a confirmation test for marijuana. Your comeback was that it had to be the confirmation test .... yet nothing as evidence. QUEST gave both values (Screening and Confirmatio), SMRTL just 1 ....




Same here with EPO.
You came back with nothing much.

How they test EPO is not the same as how they test those other substances. They have other documents for EPO and they state that there are certain criteria to verify if its indeed synthetic EPO. They state that there is no certainty as saying "The athletes THC metabolite levels are 500 ng/ml and that is more than the threshold of 150 ng/ml".

Again, for EPO they use other criteria. One reason is because EPO is naturally found in the human body. So they need to be sure that they are seeing the illegal stuff. Sometimes its hard to distinguish with a high percentage of certainty. If they are only 40% sure, as an example, then that does NOT meet the THRESHOLD to consider it a positive test.

You brought up a test that they perform. Was that solely about a quantifiable concentration level? NO! They based it on a number of factors including the intensity of the band. Depending on the test, for one criteria, to be an illegal substance the intensity factor had to be at least double. That is the definition of a threshold!!! If its less than double, it does not meet the threshold limit.



Also, they have the so-called "su****ious" cases when testing. What do you think that means? It means that the result that they had suggested that the athlete was using EPO but that it does NOT meet the threshold criteria defined for EPO!!!!


That is why I asked you to respond to your statements. Athletes can have synthetic EPO still in their body and it may be looked at to be "su****ious" but that does NOT mean that they would come back with a positive result like you implied below. You made it sound like it's black and white.

Nope, there is a threshold that must be met.





So its that time again. You know ..... for YOU to come back and DEFLECT AGAIN instead of redeeming yourself and just stating that YOU WERE WRONG!!!


.

Look at this shlt. Blah blah blu ****ing blah. Yet...no answer to my question!


IS EPO A THRESHOLD SUBSTANCE, ADP02? YES OR NO?


WHY ARE YOU DUCKING AND DEFLECTING???? LMAOOOOOO!!!!!!

DEFLECTOR STRIKES AGAIN!!!!

You came back with even less than usual!

[travestyny]

DEFLECTOR STRIKES AGAIN!!!!

You came back with even less than usual!

YES, ADP02 THE DEFLECTOR DID STRIKE AGAIN. WHAT THE ACTUAL **** DOES MY QUESTION HAVE TO DO WITH NICK DIAZ? LMAOOOOOO!

LOOK UP, BlTCH!


YOU ARE WRONGGGGG. LMAOOOOOOO. YOUR DUMB ASS CONSPIRACY THEORY IS DEAD. YOU ****ING IDIOT. NOW LOOK AT THOSE LINKS AND ADMIT YOU ARE WRONG.


LMAOOOOO! BIOTCHHHHHHH!!!!!


OR MAYBE YOU WANNA ANSWER NOW....:

IS EPO A THRESHOLD SUBSTANCE????YES OR NO? LMAOOOOO!