Pac/Floyd investigation, documented punches (disputed rounds) blow by blow

[travestyny]

No it's you who is blind for sucking up to FLoyd's jizz too damn much kid. Grow up and own up to your mistakes, maybe someday, you'll get some respect back at you.

# RED since 2008 is just glaringly pathetic you should be fortunate I don't treat like someone with Leprosy lmao

# time to stop

So....you're not going to answer me then. LMAO.

Your videos have been destroyed and you've been made into a coward. But I already knew that.

You don't even have the nerve to stand up to me to defend your videos' honor??? lmaoo. Isn't this your life's work!????

Whenever you find your balls, let me know. Until then....LMAO! You lose!

[Spoon23]

So....you're not going to answer me then. LMAO.

Your videos have been destroyed and you've been made into a coward. But I already knew that.

You don't even have the nerve to stand up to me to defend your videos' honor??? lmaoo. Isn't this your life's work!????

Whenever you find your balls, let me know. Until then....LMAO! You lose!

I offered you my last taste of generosity by entitling you to my thoughts one last time, since You suck at owning up to your mistakes. I will not by pulled back to your world of make believe.

To close this chapter with you. I will be bringing out my arguments, but do not expect me to entertain you with your back and forth bickering. I am not gonna allow you anymore to drag me to your loop of despair. I will be bringing this out for others to see how I destroyed your lame arguments. This is for the viewers to see on how I debunk your nonsense arguments. As I've said, you didn't own up to your mistakes for years and years now. You are not a credible poster to debate anymore Mr. Deflector.

I REPEAT after offering you a way to redeem yourself, after that pathetic stunt you pulled. You don't have a right to debate with me again. That ship has sailed. You fuvked up.

I close,

I only hope you have a little dignity left to understand what I just said.

Stop with the Merry go round. Let the people be the judge of our work, but I know you will never stop. Your patheticness won't allow it.

But pls,

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It's game over chump.

[travestyny]

I offered you my last taste of generosity by entitling you to my thoughts one last time, since You suck at owning up to your mistakes. I will not by pulled back to your world of make believe.



Stop with the Merry go round. Let the people be the judge of our work, but I know you will never stop. Your patheticness won't allow it.

But pls,


It's game over chump.

Ok, how about this. You said agree to disagree, right?

Well, how about we take this issue to the thunderdome. We can find some judges who can decide if any more of these so called landed punches should count. That way, you won't have to worry about only what I say. We can find unbiased judges.

That's what you want, isn't it? Do you want to go that route, or you wanna keep ducking?

[Spoon23]

Ok, how about this. You said agree to disagree, right?

Well, how about we take this issue to the thunderdome. We can find some judges who can decide if any more of these so called landed punches should count. That way, you won't have to worry about only what I say. We can find unbiased judges.

That's what you want, isn't it? Do you want to go that route, or you wanna keep ducking?

Strangely...



Wheels On The Bus Go Round and Round

[travestyny]

Strangely...



Wheels On The Bus Go Round and Round

Oh no...it does end. You just don't want it to end.


This thread ended a long time ago. I put the last nail in this bltch...but you don't want to admit it.

Your videos were destroyed.

[Spoon23]

Oh no...it does end. You just don't want it to end.


This thread ended a long time ago. I put the last nail in this bltch...but you don't want to admit it.

Your videos were destroyed.

Naah.. only a fool will believe a clown that's been exposed since 2008 lolololol

For what it's worth your a great sideshow. My thread chronicling the biggest scam in boxing history won't be fun without you hehehe!

Awesome job kid. And yes Floyd has been exposed along time ago. I am merely memorializing it even more.

Cheers!

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[travestyny]

Naah.. only a fool will believe a clown that's been exposed since 2008 lolololol

For what it's worth your a great sideshow. My thread chronicling the biggest scam in boxing history won't be fun without you hehehe!

Awesome job kid. And yes Floyd has been exposed along time ago. I am merely memorializing it even more.

Cheers!

LMAO. Dude....we both know what happened here.

You asked for someone to take on your videos...I did...and you folded like a lawn chair.

I'm very, very satisfied with how all this turned out. Because as long as YOU know you're a bltch, and I know you're a bltch, and everyone that comes in here sees you ducking me like a bltch...

that means my job was done. It's clear, isn't it?

You gotta live with that.

[ADP02]

Thank you. So you're saying you have no information about whether he felt pain. No evidence from the fight itself. Ok. That's all I needed to know.



Ok. You actually believed that's why he backed off? Let's say he backed off because of that. Ok.

What happened the rest of the fight? Why didn't he mention the injury? Why wasn't it iced? Why did it not seem to affect him ever again? Why wasn't it noticed by any of the announcers.

We have evidence from other fights above. It's not something that just goes away. That is NOT the reason he backed off, and you know it.

I have been asking you these type of question on Floyd for like forever.

You actually came back with BS such as urinating in a cup instead of the toilet 4 days beforehand, will contribute to Floyd's severe dehydration to the point that he had not 1 but 2 IVs (hate that I'm saying 2? .... too bad, so sad .... you know what I mean, DEFLECTOR!!!)


Floyd was there close up for all of us to see just before getting the IV. NOBODY said that Floyd looked severely dehydrated. Not the commentators, not Floyd fans, not Floyd haters, not Ariza, not Floyd and company ..... not before nor after.

but more importantly, Floyd said for days that he was doing fine. Even right after getting the IV.

and then there is of course the vital signs, pre-fight forms and so on.


You believed Floyd but saw ZERO SIGNS. HOW COME??????????????
..... yet here you are asking about Manny. If you were objectively speaking about Floyd, cool ..... but you were NOT!!!


At least, Manny had verified with USADA on if he can he use those meds. NSAC brought it up that the meds that they wanted to use was for that specific injury and it was BEFORE the fight.

Manny's pre-fight form had those meds!



Floyd? Uses an IV but looked good just BEFORE and right AFTER. So why are you not asking the same question on Floyd? Where is your evidence on Floyd? Did you notice Floyd severely dehydrated? Not drinking orally? What signs did you notice?


Just like I told you. Its possible that there was pain but pain does NOT correlate to the seriousness of the injury!!!!:
"The amount of pain you’ll experience isn’t necessarily indicative of the amount of injury you’ve sustained. A full-thickness rotator cuff tear, such as the one Pacquiao sustained, may sometimes cause little pain. On the other hand, a fairly minor irritation can cause enough pain to substantially affect your quality of life or sports performance. "

[ADP02]

Hard to believe that you've been here for how many ever years and you've never seen a box to the above right that says "Your notifications: 500+" and never thought to click on it.

That's beyond ******. Sorry, but even you should admit that.

Sorry but ****** is even discussing this UNLESS its to inform someone who doesn't know.

I have yet to go to the Thunderdome section. Should I be hanged?

Who are you, the soap **** guy?

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[travestyny]

I have been asking you these type of question on Floyd for like forever.

You actually came back with BS such as urinating in a cup instead of the toilet 4 days beforehand, will contribute to Floyd's severe dehydration to the point that he had not 1 but 2 IVs (hate that I'm saying 2? .... too bad, so sad .... you know what I mean, DEFLECTOR!!!)


Floyd was there close up for all of us to see just before getting the IV. NOBODY said that Floyd looked severely dehydrated. Not the commentators, not Floyd fans, not Floyd haters, not Ariza, not Floyd and company ..... not before nor after.

but more importantly, Floyd said for days that he was doing fine. Even right after getting the IV.

and then there is of course the vital signs, pre-fight forms and so on.


You believed Floyd but saw ZERO SIGNS. HOW COME??????????????
..... yet here you are asking about Manny. If you were objectively speaking about Floyd, cool ..... but you were NOT!!!

Objective? You want to be objective? Ok. You didn't see an MRI for Pacquiao. What you saw was someone who everyone stated didn't have an injury going into the fight, didn't show any sign of an injury during the fight, and didn't rehab like someone with this injury after the fight.

Yet you said you believe him. Ostensibly, this is because he used a world renowned doctor. You don't take into account that this same doctor was completely willing to give Manny a Toradol shot for an injury that he claims he didn't have. that doesn't hit you as strange at all. All of these things make zero sense.

Yet, you say...what about Floyd.

1. NSAC has never in it's history proven anyone to be dehydrated. Don't you find that odd when I'm sure there were ZILLIIONS of dehydrated boxers.

2. You completely ignore that the USADA TUEC approved the application that did NOT have Mayweather's name on it according to the rules. You also ignore that the application was sent to WADA. You DEFLECT and say USADA's TUEC was either fooled, or was biased, and WADA had no time to look it over. That's like saying someone sends the details of what may have been a burglary to the police chief, and the chief may or may not have gone over the details, no charges were filed...so we presume guilt? That's asinine.

3. Again, you talk about being objective...but you can't even admit that Floyd tried to fight prime Manny. Dude. I thought you were much more of a stand up person than that. Keep it real. You DEFLECTED.

4. I wasn't there to know what USADA did. IF USADA did something wrong, it was WADA's job to correct it. WADA didn't. I don't know if they checked it out or not. But they did nothing. That ends the case.

5. Even if USADA did something wrong, that does NOT mean Floyd used PED's. Your challenge is 2 tiered. Not only are you trying to prove USADA did something wrong, which you can't...you are trying to prove Mayweather abused PED's, which you've failed miserably at.

6. You refuse to admit that EPO is not a threshold substance. Again, very disappointing of you. You won't even address it anymore.

At least, Manny had verified with USADA on if he can he use those meds. NSAC brought it up that the meds that they wanted to use was for that specific injury and it was BEFORE the fight.

Manny's pre-fight form had those meds!

You fail to show why any of this is substantive.

1. USADA said Pac's team never said what the meds were for. Just asked if they were allowed.

2. NSAC didn't know anything about the injury until a couple of hours before. Pac's team said they sent them paperwork. This was proven to be a LIE. Then they said USADA was supposed to tell them. USADA stated they knew nothing about this injury, and that being informed about the injury was a LIE. You are being shot in the foot by Manny's lying team. I don't know how you can't see through all of these lies his team has told. A plethora of lies, and you think it's all on the up and up???

3. When the team was CAUGHT trying to give the meds, what the **** did you think they would say. "Oh, we were...just going to take them...for fun." Of course they have to say they are for an injury.

4. And I actually believe he tweeked the shoulder and had it treated. That does NOT mean he can use meds when it is already back to normal strength, as his own surgeon said.

Floyd? Uses an IV but looked good just BEFORE and right AFTER. So why are you not asking the same question on Floyd? Where is your evidence on Floyd? Did you notice Floyd severely dehydrated? Not drinking orally? What signs did you notice?

What the hell do you want me to do? Do you think I can pull evidence from my ass like you attempt to do? There is a system. The system is...the TUEC checks...and WADA checks them. That is what happened. Go take up your beef with WADA. Tell them to get on their job.

Just like I told you. Its possible that there was pain but pain does NOT correlate to the seriousness of the injury!!!!:
"The amount of pain you’ll experience isn’t necessarily indicative of the amount of injury you’ve sustained. A full-thickness rotator cuff tear, such as the one Pacquiao sustained, may sometimes cause little pain. On the other hand, a fairly minor irritation can cause enough pain to substantially affect your quality of life or sports performance. "

Dude, do you really think this is the same for a boxing match? Serious question. To some extent I agree they can hide the pain, but look at all of the other examples. The injury definitely showed in all of those situations...except Pacquaio's. Did you ever keep it real and ask yourself why? Nope. You didn't. So how are you going to talk to me about objectivity?

Those other guys said they had a large amount of pain. Maybe Pacquiao did also and he masked it....but the thing is all of those other guys were whispering to their trainers, they were getting iced, they were changing the way they box. Manny did none of that and you know it.


Lastly, and most importantly, none of this shlt matters. There is zero proof of blood doping. None. There is zero proof that Manny had an injury going into the fight. Actually, there is more proof that he did NOT have an injury going into the fight.

Once they are in the ring, whatever happens happens. He lost. Get over it already.