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    #81
    Originally posted by Fearless
    But Mayweather is much faster than Tszyu...

    Not to say that Thunder From Down Under has no chance... Because Kostya got them power!
    Tszyu had a chance in his prime but he's old and slow and retired now. Mayweather doesn't swarm and that give TK plenty of time to correctly time and extended one good right missile on Mayweather like he did to Judah.

    Hatton is not the man at 140. He might be in the future but he doesn't have any more claim to it than Mayweather. Hatton has to beat some more A type competition at 140 to be the man there. I think Gatti has a better breaded than Hatton. Hatton has been hit hard but I don't he's been hit as hard as Gatti though.

    Maragrito is overrated. Yeah people duck him because he is dangerous, looks good eating up B competition, and not worth the money. Doesn't mean he's a great fighter. If he was so good why does he throw looping punchs that are wide?

    Castillo did a decent job with Mayweather fight one. Did Castilo pound Mayweather down and beat him into a pulp. Did he trap effectively. No. Mayweather still squirmed his way out most of the fight and got in trouble late in the fight. Hardly dominating. Fight two was give me. Castillo got robbed because Mayweather didn't come to fight.
    Last edited by ricecrispi; 03-19-2006, 05:04 PM.

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      #82
      I think PBF needs to stay away from Winky he talked about it for a while but it would be very hard for Floyd to catch him missing and the bigger Winky could just walk him down. It would look similar to Winky-Mosley

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        #83
        DLH or Shane Mosley .............................

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          #84
          Originally posted by ricecrispi
          Hatton has beaten mostly fringe contenders and some B+ competition in old Vince Phillips and Ben Tackie. Ben Tackie has never won a REAL championship fight. So what if Hatton beat Tzsyu. TZU was old, out of shape, and didn't basically retired from the ring.
          Floyd Mayweather hasnt really beaten anybody worth noting. Many of the opponents he has beat ive never heard of, and I bet most other people havent either.
          Theres only Gatti, Sharmba Mitchell and Castillo who are decent fighters, and all 3 of them are years past their best.

          Kosta tzu on the other hand was still a threat to this division, until he met Hatton. The only reason why Tzu is finished is because Hatton finished him.

          How can you say Tzu was finished anyways??
          This is what really pisses me off about you Americans. You think your guys are untouchable because they bash a few bums around in the ring. But when a foreign boxer comes on your scene i.e. Ricky Hatton, you discount him because youve never seen him until you watched Tzu get beat. This isnt Hattons normal style of fighting, it was just his tactic for the tzu fight. and it worked, and your basing everything you know about hatton on the tzu and maussa fight alone.
          Hatton has way more experience than Mayweather.
          Hatton has way more power than Mayweather.
          Hattons chin is like iron. Mayweathers aint been tested.
          There very close on speed.
          Hatton has the brains to alter his style to suit the fighter. Mayweather fights almost identical every fight, he stands off and counters.

          Prediction on the fight (if mayweather stops dodging)
          Hatton round 10 or 11 KO

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            #85
            Oh my god.. stop bringing nationality into it.

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              #86
              Originally posted by D-Rast
              Floyd Mayweather hasnt really beaten anybody worth noting. Many of the opponents he has beat ive never heard of, and I bet most other people havent either.
              Theres only Gatti, Sharmba Mitchell and Castillo who are decent fighters, and all 3 of them are years past their best.

              Kosta tzu on the other hand was still a threat to this division, until he met Hatton. The only reason why Tzu is finished is because Hatton finished him.

              How can you say Tzu was finished anyways??
              This is what really pisses me off about you Americans. You think your guys are untouchable because they bash a few bums around in the ring. But when a foreign boxer comes on your scene i.e. Ricky Hatton, you discount him because youve never seen him until you watched Tzu get beat. This isnt Hattons normal style of fighting, it was just his tactic for the tzu fight. and it worked, and your basing everything you know about hatton on the tzu and maussa fight alone.
              Hatton has way more experience than Mayweather.
              Hatton has way more power than Mayweather.
              Hattons chin is like iron. Mayweathers aint been tested.
              There very close on speed.
              Hatton has the brains to alter his style to suit the fighter. Mayweather fights almost identical every fight, he stands off and counters.

              Prediction on the fight (if mayweather stops dodging)
              Hatton round 10 or 11 KO
              whats wrong with your mouth ...... Sharmba Mitchell, Arturo Gatti ,Henry Bruseles, DeMarcus Corley, Phillip N'dou

              Jose Luis Castillo, Jesus Chavez, Carlos Hernandez, Diego Corrales,Genaro Hernandez,Angel Manfredy ,he just makes okay and good fighters look like bums

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                #87
                MARGARITO WILL BEAT PBF. mark my words

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                  #88
                  Originally posted by D-Rast
                  Theres only Gatti, Sharmba Mitchell and Castillo who are decent fighters, and all 3 of them are years past their best.
                  Wow, Castillo was past his prime when he PBF fought him? You also forgot Corrales. I'm not saying that Hatton hasn't faced good competition but he has no way fought the level of fighters that PBF has.

                  Hatton beat a great fighter in Tzu but Tzu wasn't prime either. Before that night Tzu only fought once in 29 months and was chasing 36 years old. I also think win or lose Tzu would've only had 1 maybe 2 fights left in him. But you can only beat the guy in front of you and Hatton did just that and it was an excellent win.


                  Now as far as Hatton's other "notables" Vince Phillips had lost 2 of his last five before Hatton and was coming off a loss. Clearly he wasn't the same Vince Phillips. Ben Tackie had lost 3 of his last 6 fights including 2 fight losing streak coming into his bout with Hatton. Now Hatton is a good fighter but I he still hasn't had the amount of quality opponents while on the upside of there careers only a couple of B+ fighters and 1 A+ fighter but its undisputable that all were in the twilight of there careers.

                  The one fact that no one can dispute is that PBF has in the past cleaned up his division, with the exception of Mosley who went up in weight for bigger money and never got to fight PBF. Otherwise PBF pretty much took out the best his division had to offer. He is taking his time stepping up his level of competition but so is Hatton and Hatton has always been in at Jr. Welter. Hatton has also beaten the supposed best welterweight at the time in Tzu so why the tune up fights before stepping up competition level. At the same time PBF is coming up in weight and is filling into 140lbs but he gets criticized although he is up 17lbs from his initial weight class of 130lbs, thats nearly 15%. That is the equivalent of Hatton going upto MiddleWeight 160lbs. But yet PBF gets criticized and Hatton gets excused because "All the other top guys are already signed to fight others" when he had since the end of November before many of the top Jr. Welterweights were signed to other fights.

                  Originally posted by D-Rast
                  Hatton has way more experience than Mayweather.
                  Hatton has way more power than Mayweather.
                  Hattons chin is like iron. Mayweathers aint been tested.
                  There very close on speed. Hatton has the brains to alter his style to suit the fighter. Mayweather fights almost identical every fight, he stands off and counters.

                  Prediction on the fight (if mayweather stops dodging)
                  Hatton round 10 or 11 KO
                  Wow, this has left me nearly speechless. They are not very close on speed at all. Even the most die hard visually impaired Hatton fan can acknowledge that PBF enjoys a considerable hand speed advantage against top fighter in the Jr. Welters and Welters with only Zab coming close. I acknowledge that Hatton is a very bright fighter and came into the Tzu fight with a brilliant game plan but Mayweather is also brilliant and due to his physical talent has the ability to adapt to multiple fighting styles. PBF has fought tuff smothering fighters i.e. Castillo but Hatton hasn't fought the slick boxer like PBF. PBF does not have the same style in every fight just the same outcome.

                  Dont get me wrong Hatton is extremely strong and big for 140lbs while staying in top shape with great work rate and good power but versus virtuoso such as PBF he would lose 9 out of 10 but he has a punchers chance.

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                    #89
                    Originally posted by D-Rast

                    Kosta tzu on the other hand was still a threat to this division, until he met Hatton. The only reason why Tzu is finished is because Hatton finished him.

                    How can you say Tzu was finished anyways??

                    Hatton has way more experience than Mayweather.
                    Hatton has way more power than Mayweather.
                    Hattons chin is like iron. Mayweathers aint been tested.
                    There very close on speed.
                    Hatton has the brains to alter his style to suit the fighter. Mayweather fights almost identical every fight, he stands off and counters.

                    Prediction on the fight (if mayweather stops dodging)
                    Hatton round 10 or 11 KO
                    You sound like another british Hatton fanboy....
                    I have no problem with Hatton. I like his style and i like him a lot more than PBF. I don't give a **** if he's from africa, middle eastern, english, irish, asian, or russian. People just bandwagoning because he won against Tszyu. Tszyu was finished. He wasn't even in the gym for like year and wasn't in there because he had like two big surgeries.

                    How does Hatton have more Experience than PBF? How many championship rounds has he gone into? How many multidivision belts does he have? How many top5 ranked fighter did Mayweather fight compared to Hatton.

                    Faster hands than PBF? You must be blind in one eye. Hatton is not quick but throw a lot of punches.

                    Hatton fights the same fight. When has he boxed or sat back and fought.

                    People need to stop bringing up Cotto. Mayweather cant even fight Cotto. They have the same promoter Don King. Both are his cash cows and no reason to face them off. You have no match-up if the promoter doesn't want it. People need to realize that.

                    King will make more $$ if mayweather moves up which he can and leave Cotto to clean up 140. Cotto is already damaged goods and I don't think he can move up to 147. PBF can and can clean it up because it is not a solid division

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                      #90
                      who out of all these guys at 140 and 147 has the most "Claim" to be a champ as u all are taking away from mayweather. Hatton, Margarito, Kosta Tzyu.. why? they have all fought b level fighters to get their names in the sport as mayweather has. Stop defending them. All of them will meet eventually and then we can decide who the champ is.

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