Originally posted by LacedUp
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Oh come on man, I've seen this fight live and I've had tears in my eyes when Vitali bullied Adamek around for 10 rounds... -
It's not his fault no, but he didn't even fight the best of a ****ty era. Come on.Originally posted by bklynboy View PostComment
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I know he bullied him around. And that's why it wasn't impressive. The guy was towering over Adamek and he still carried him for 10 rounds despite the fact that Adamek didn't show anything the whole fight. Vitali should have finished him in 5. And this is not a criticism of Adamek, but he was just in with a guy who was too big.Originally posted by Szef99 View PostComment
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I agree with that, but you've said earlier that Vit didn't look impressive against Adamek. In my opinion he looked great, and yes, he could've finished him even in round 2 after the big right hand. But he has the deal with RTL so he probably carried Adamek for 10 rounds because of commercials.Is it right? That's debateble. But Klitschko looked damn impressive in that fight.Originally posted by LacedUp View PostComment
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Watching anti-Klit trolls trolling pro-Klit trolls while pro-Klit trolls are trolling anti-Klit trolls makes my head hurt.Comment
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Come on man you are being silly right now. Just say that you dont like the K bros but dont take us for fools. Saying that Vitali could have fought those guys during the 90's is like if you said that Deontay Wilder or Hughie Fury have the opportunity to fight THIS YEAR David Haye, Kubrat Pulev or the K brothers. Boying has changed, you can not set up every month some super fights. Vitali Klitschko never ducked anybody. Lewis ( and I think he was a great boxer) didn't have the courage to make a rematch. Vitali , when he was 41 sent a contract to David Haye to fightOriginally posted by joe strong View Post
Vitali Klitschko gave Byrd a BEATING and put Lewis to his limits. After he lost his firs belt he suffered from 3 different injuries during 4 damn years. And come on Vitali Klitschko owns both Rahman and MaskaevComment
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I would LOVE to see a 42 years old Vitali Klitschko take on a David Haye just to see your reactions!!
Dwyer may be crazy, but he is totally right when he says that V.K is an all-time great.
Honestly, I dont really care if you think I am trolling, that is my opinion. And evaluating boxing is nothing else but a question of opinion. I truly believe , Vitali Klitschko would give a harsh test to every boxer in history.
I know it's hard for you guys to admit it just because he is not American or British.Comment
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Not only are the Bros. ordinary their fans are like talking to a wall! They only know how to look at a record, know nothing about tchniques and wouldn't know a thing about inside fighting or tieing up and walking off an opponent!!
Its all been said before but when you have ordinary skills with beginner fans and success along for the ride because the division was dying before they got there this is what you get!! Uninformed, uneducated fans who think a successfull record against nobodies gifts the right to be considered ATG's!
These people don't know a damn thing about boxing skills, watch a fellow like Rigo then compare techniques to the Bros.....................not much there, right! RayComment
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If Adamek lost against Vk because he was too big then how would Joe Frazier look like?Originally posted by LacedUp View PostComment
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I think we all have to keep in mind how a dominant champion always make the rest of the division look weak, except in absolutely exceptional eras. Think of Joe Louis' "Bum of the month club", think of what was said about Marciano, about Tyson before 1990, about Holmes (my father, who had seen every heavyweight champion's reigns from the 30's Louis on, kept telling me in the 80's, how bad Holmes probably was, because there was no one there really good to compete with him -he was btw, saying the same of Marciano in retrospect).
Dominant champions don't let fighters develop, and make every other look just inept, even when they could have been good in some other eras.
You make some good points, Bklynboy, but some of this is absurd as well, in my opinion. I don't know how you evaluate this, but I can't possibly remotely agree with you with the lists you make after the first one. Bonavena was as strong as a bull but nothing in skills to compare with VK. Chuvalo? Come on, you can't be serious? Douglas had one good night; you can't base yourself on this to rate him. Jerry Quarry had indeed the style to bug VK; but he took too many punches, and with the big Ukrainian's power and strenght, forget it. Kenny Norton crumbled before every major puncher he faced. Trevor Berbick was a terrible octopus, very strong, and that's how he basically prevailed; but VK is too athletic and strong; I don't even know how you can even mention Berbick's name here. Shavers was powerful but terribly slow; Weaver strong and pretty powerful but not very cleaver and relatively the same can be said of Lyle; Folley was a good fighter, but I also can't think how you can put him there; Terrell was tall but didn't have enough power to rival VK's; Young was a small guy, very cleaver, but too small. Witherspoon (at some point), Bowe, Holyfield would have given him really good test and probably hard battles, and a prime Holmes would have made for a very good fight. For these guys, I agree too.
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