Name & Shame Boxer Anthony Small for Protesting Against British Troops !

[sultanisking]

Thats about the best post on the the thread !
I don't know how anyone on this thread can take Smalls side when he states :Islam will dominate the world and the UK and democracy has failed and should be abolished ! And no matter what he says Hes been seen spitting at our injured troops and burning our flag !

If he don't like our laws that he was born in to....why not go live in the country that he respects more ??
We live in democracy he will be allowed to leave !

democracy --> people power---> right to excerise freedom of speech/actions unless its okay within the law

[*2TOUGH*]

Once again:

Who said you had to "appreciate" the country you lived in? Just because i was born in the UK does not mean i have to kiss its arse by being patriotic. Can i not be here for work? and for pleasure?

Fundamentalist is a western made up word... You just define them as 'extreme' and label them as that. So what if they are fundamentalists? You can argue that racist white folk are fundamentalists too, hell even patriotic flag waving 'normal' white people.

So what....?

[Rosseboi]

If ******s majority ruled this country non ******s would be second class citizens and that is of course even if non ******s are allowed at all........

If you believe otherwise I suggest you go take a holiday to one of these 'Sharia Law' countries like Iran or Afghanistan and try openly preaching your faith. Do you really, honestly, hand on your heart and truthfully believe they would treat you fairly? Really? Swear on the life of your mother/daughter/sister?

Well if you're not willing to swear it on those grounds you have doubt. Doubt which is based on evidence you've seen and anything else is just wishful things.

Remember: they are not you and they don't have your standards.

[Decypher]

More than anything, "Islam will rule the world" messages are just a way of venting because they are angry, no different to any other protest.

And it isn't just about "venting because they are angry". ****** fundamentalists like that REALLY DO want Islamic law imposed on the world.

Fundamentalist is a western made up word... You just define them as 'extreme' and label them as that. So what if they are fundamentalists?

OK, if you don't like the word "fundamentalist" then just ignore it. Just read what I said as, "******s like that REALLY DO want Islamic law imposed on the world". So as I said, it isn't just about, "venting because they are angry". They really do have a ******* agenda. Here is something I came across which speaks of that ******* agenda...


Al-Ghazali (11th century Islamic theologian) speaking about conquered non-****** dhimmi peoples:


...one must go on jihad (i.e., razzias or raids) at least once a year...one may use a catapult against them [non-******s] when they are in a fortress, even if among them are women and children. One may set fire to them and/or drown them...If a person of the Ahl al-Kitab [People of The Book - i.e. ***s and Christians] is enslaved, his marriage is [automatically] revoked....One may cut down their trees...One must destroy their useless books. Jihadists may take as booty whatever they decide...they may steal as much food as they need...

...the dhimmi [may never] mention Allah or His Apostle...***s, Christians, and Majians must pay the jizya [non-****** poll tax]....[O]n offering up the jizya, the dhimmi must hang his head while the official takes hold of his beard and hits [the dhimmi] on the protuberant bone beneath his ear [lower jaw]... They are not permitted to ostentatiously display their wine or church bells...[T]heir houses may not be higher than the ******'s, no matter how low.... The dhimmi may not ride an elegant horse or mule; he may ride a donkey only if the saddle is ... wood. He may not walk on the good part of the road. [Dhimmis must] wear [an identifying] patch, even women, and even in the [public] baths...[Dhimmis] must hold their tongue....


Al-Ghazali (d. 1111). Kitab al-Wagiz fi fiqh madhab al-imam al-Safi'i, Beirut, 1979, pp. 186, 190-91; 199-200; 202-203. [Translation by Dr. Michael Schub, from Legacy of Jihad: Islamic Holy War and the Fate of Non-****** Peoples, (2005) ed. Dr. Andrew G. Bostom, p. 199 ]

[Fish_Scotland]

I've not read all the posts as I'm at work but heres my viewpoint.

I don't agree with protesting against the troops and Anthony is obviously an idiot. BUT

I total understand my ******s are p*ssed at us(the west, I'm a white Scot). Lets put the whole thing in another perspective.

Lets say Canada was a ****** country. Then in the early 90's Canada invade kill thousand on completely inocent Americans and **** off again and leave the Americans too pick up the bits. Then 10 years later Canada come back, tell the world the U.S. have WMD which don't exist and occupy the country and take immediete control of the oilfields while overthrowing the U.S. government. Over the years of occupation, the Canadians kill over 1 MILLION + (minimum) US CIVILIANS and continue to be there years later.

How p*ssed are you going to be?

I feel sorry for the troops when they die but they know exactly what they are signing up for!

Harsh maybe but its reality.

[The RealDeal]

Can't we all just get along ?

[Rosseboi]

That would be awesome!

I want this too and Zaheer you seem like a really decent bloke and nothing I say is aimed personally at you but the hole "arabic to english lost in translation" debate gets used far far to much.

I mean that whole block of text advocated taxes, houses restrictions, beatings, theft, intolerance of other faith an generl subjugation for the lucky ones.........most likely because of the century meant death too.

I can;t forsee that whole text being taken out of context that excuse is used far too much by ******s.

I would condemn the BNP I would only expect a (good) ****** to condemn the radicals in their faith but I don't see that and that's my main worry.

[steeluv]

you have been reading too many tabloids if you believe that, or you have been something very strong that has killed most of your active brain cells

shame for you! i hear storys of *** abuse, in them countries they are as bad as catholic priests. I have family who work the foreign office who worked in kuwait, iran, saudi, jordan, I have visited them in some of these arab countries, Kuwait is so nice they kidnapp your passport for a week as soon as they get there and question you like ur a naughty child at school for just entering. I have seen with my own eyes how women in saudi are so restricted, they have there name and number on cards and show them to guys they like at traffic lights. Sharia is amazing, women are so free, they can do as men, they are free to go anywhere anytime on there lonesome, they are free to talk to ppl of the opposite ***. Tell me again Mohammed all of his wifes there age? and how the koran and bible doesn't condemn slavery.

[REMOVED SHARK 97]

I don't care about this Brit bum.

But so much for only caring about what boxers do instead the ring instead of outside.

[Decypher]

Al-Ghazali (11th century Islamic theologian) speaking about conquered non-****** dhimmi peoples:


...one must go on jihad (i.e., razzias or raids) at least once a year...one may use a catapult against them [non-******s] when they are in a fortress, even if among them are women and children. One may set fire to them and/or drown them...If a person of the Ahl al-Kitab [People of The Book - i.e. ***s and Christians] is enslaved, his marriage is [automatically] revoked....One may cut down their trees...One must destroy their useless books. Jihadists may take as booty whatever they decide...they may steal as much food as they need...

...the dhimmi [may never] mention Allah or His Apostle...***s, Christians, and Majians must pay the jizya [non-****** poll tax]....[O]n offering up the jizya, the dhimmi must hang his head while the official takes hold of his beard and hits [the dhimmi] on the protuberant bone beneath his ear [lower jaw]... They are not permitted to ostentatiously display their wine or church bells...[T]heir houses may not be higher than the ******'s, no matter how low.... The dhimmi may not ride an elegant horse or mule; he may ride a donkey only if the saddle is ... wood. He may not walk on the good part of the road. [Dhimmis must] wear [an identifying] patch, even women, and even in the [public] baths...[Dhimmis] must hold their tongue....


Al-Ghazali (d. 1111). Kitab al-Wagiz fi fiqh madhab al-imam al-Safi'i, Beirut, 1979, pp. 186, 190-91; 199-200; 202-203. [Translation by Dr. Michael Schub, from Legacy of Jihad: Islamic Holy War and the Fate of Non-****** Peoples, (2005) ed. Dr. Andrew G. Bostom, p. 199 ]

Decypher quoted from the following book:
Legacy of Jihad: Islamic Holy War and the Fate of Non-****** Peoples

This book was written by Andrew Bostom who generally writes about Jihad and also writes about anti-semitism in Islam. The foreword was written by Ibn Waraq who was a ****** but later left the religion and has criticized the religion he was brought up in; in the same fashion as Russell did in his book "Why I Am Not a Christian".

Therefore the accuracy of the quotes and the context in which they were written can certainly be questioned when the authors of the book are so anti-Islamic.

Well it works both ways doesn't it?

If we should be careful of what critics of Islam say, we should also be careful of what defenders of Islam say.

The apologists for Islam are more than capable of using things "out of context", telling half-truths or even outright lies.