Is Pacman the greatest Asian Champ of all time?

[Chups]

I'd answer that question once his career is over. Right now,he has achieved a lot despite his youth and he's still trying to make a name for himself. The way he's going though, I wouldn't be surprised if he indeed turns out to be the greatest Asian champ, if not one of the greatest champions the world has ever seen. Good luck to Manny Pacquio on his coming fight with another boxing superstar, El Terible.

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[kadyo's]

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Right now yes, but of all time? Let us wait and see.

[AIR_KENG]

A lot of the Pacquiao supporters here aren't basing their reasoning on his accomplishments, but his excitement and potential. Many of these claims begin with "if Pacquiao" or "when Pacquiao" does this or that, he'll no doubt be the greatest. Hell, it's possible that some toddler in korea can one day be the greatest asian fighter of all-time, but you can't give him that label until he accomplishes something in the ring.

I do believe Pacquiao has the skill and potential to be one of the greatest, but as of now, he's not even close to the greatest. Let's not get carried away. Also, i do also think he's one of the most exciting fighters today, but excitement shouldn't be factored into a fighter's greatness. Greatness should only be based on accomplishments, skill, and level of opposition.

well then the only thing that pacquiao has yet to have to be the greatest is accomplishment. but hasn't he accomplished anything yet? most of the messages here would be revolving around "when" and "ifs" because Manny has the skill, the potential and pretty much hurdled the best of the opposition. you can't discredit him. level of competition is already proven by manny. he might be. that "might be" is again used because he has a lot of ways to go, he can surpass anybody, if he remains to the hard-hitting manny until he reaches that goal...

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well then the only thing that pacquiao has yet to have to be the greatest is accomplishment. but hasn't he accomplished anything yet? most of the messages here would be revolving around "when" and "ifs" because Manny has the skill, the potential and pretty much hurdled the best of the opposition. you can't discredit him. level of competition is already proven by manny. he might be. that "might be" is again used because he has a lot of ways to go, he can surpass anybody, if he remains to the hard-hitting manny until he reaches that goal...

I don't think Pacquaio's skill has been proven against all-time great opposition. Yes, he's proven to be one of the best today and very skillful. But it's very different to be proven today and proven all-time. Did he prove his skill against Marquez, when he was clearly outboxed? He proved his power, but what about his skill? So far his best outing has been against Marco Antonio Barrera. One fight alone doesn't make you a great fighter. His resume hasn't necessarily been the stuff of legends. Don't get me wrong, it's good and enough to grant him the label of one of the best today. But it's not on par with Fighting Harada's.

I simply don't like it when people rush to certain conclusions. It's not sure if Pacquiao will be the greatest; it's possible, but far from a garauntee. Past legends have already proven themselves, to somewhat place Pacquiao ahead of them based on potential rubs me the wrong way.

[chinamayn]

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[JaNnO]

I don't think Pacquaio's skill has been proven against all-time great opposition. Yes, he's proven to be one of the best today and very skillful. But it's very different to be proven today and proven all-time. Did he prove his skill against Marquez, when he was clearly outboxed? He proved his power, but what about his skill? So far his best outing has been against Marco Antonio Barrera. One fight alone doesn't make you a great fighter. His resume hasn't necessarily been the stuff of legends. Don't get me wrong, it's good and enough to grant him the label of one of the best today. But it's not on par with Fighting Harada's.

I simply don't like it when people rush to certain conclusions. It's not sure if Pacquiao will be the greatest; it's possible, but far from a garauntee. Past legends have already proven themselves, to somewhat place Pacquiao ahead of them based on potential rubs me the wrong way.

no disrespect and i'm not saying pac is the gratest fighter from asia, but it seemed to me that you don't know pacquiao yourself, so how can you judge him?

[AIR_KENG]

I don't think Pacquaio's skill has been proven against all-time great opposition. Yes, he's proven to be one of the best today and very skillful. But it's very different to be proven today and proven all-time. Did he prove his skill against Marquez, when he was clearly outboxed? He proved his power, but what about his skill? So far his best outing has been against Marco Antonio Barrera. One fight alone doesn't make you a great fighter. His resume hasn't necessarily been the stuff of legends. Don't get me wrong, it's good and enough to grant him the label of one of the best today. But it's not on par with Fighting Harada's.

I simply don't like it when people rush to certain conclusions. It's not sure if Pacquiao will be the greatest; it's possible, but far from a garauntee. Past legends have already proven themselves, to somewhat place Pacquiao ahead of them based on potential rubs me the wrong way.

that's the reason i say HE MIGHT BE. i am not assuring him of all-time greatness... and yes, he has proven his skill against marquez, he was outboxed simply because that was the style of the opposition, hit and run... if manny didn't attack marquez, could marquez show his wares? i am not discrediting marquez, he is probably the best counterpuncher today but manny showed some skill in that fight... you would be so one-sided if oyu say he didn't...

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that's the reason i say HE MIGHT BE. i am not assuring him of all-time greatness... and yes, he has proven his skill against marquez, he was outboxed simply because that was the style of the opposition, hit and run... if manny didn't attack marquez, could marquez show his wares? i am not discrediting marquez, he is probably the best counterpuncher today but manny showed some skill in that fight... you would be so one-sided if oyu say he didn't...

Sure, Pacquiao displayed some skills against Marquez, especially his punching prowess and speed early on. However, he also showed some weaknesses in his armor. Not many all-time great boxers would get outboxed after knocking down their opponents a million times in the first round. They overcome stylistic hurdles by asserting their will or changing their game plan.

Pacquiao still has a ways to go. But he can surely prove me wrong though. He definately has the potential and physical capabilities to do so.

[jabsRstiff]

no disrespect and i'm not saying pac is the gratest fighter from asia, but it seemed to me that you don't know pacquiao yourself, so how can you judge him?

You said this to CPLE ?

Dude, CPLE knows his ****.....& certainly knows about Pacquiao.
CPLE is speaking the truth about Pacquiao...& does so objectively.

[JaNnO]

The way pac dismantled erik last week, he has just made a giant leap towards getting the "Greatest Asian Fighter" title. beating the two great mexicans was a big feat for any ordinary fighter and manny did the job in a manner many thought was nearly impossible. his ring exploits and boxing record are also excellent which could well argue that he belongs to the elite especially of his generation.

However to wrestle that distinction from the Gabriel “Flash” Elorde who is considered by many to have that distinction, Pacquiao needs to stay on top of his game for a longer period of time. Elorde was an excellent boxer and slugger and he was both WBC and WBA Super Featherweight champion at the same time for 7 years. There is no question that Pacquiao has fought the best fighters on his way has beaten most of them. Manny has also shown all the qualities of a boxer worthy to be enshrined to the Boxing Hall of Fame.