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    Originally posted by them_apples View Post
    I'm pretty sure in the book "the rise and fall of the third reich" been a while since I read it, has written documentation that the **** party didn't like Schmeling, but they said they could use him for propaganda, or at least try to. Schmeling actually seemed like a bit of a progressive thinker, he seemed less racist than even the acceptable norm of the day.

    That being said, no not every German was a **** in ww2 - but I can sympathize with the statement you make. Plenty of them were sheep like most societies are including America. Whatever the norm is society follows. The **** party was the ruling elite at the time and therefore the norm. Any German that snitched on their neighbours, in my opinion, is a ****, and plenty of them did. Schmeling by a lot of accounts was actually an outcast in this regard, a brave person risking his life for not agreeing with the **** party. I mean, thats what a lot of accounts say. Thats all we can go by.
    you make some really great point in an all around great post. i plan to look into some of the things you mention. 🙂

    one thing to remember. years gone by schmeling is seen as a good guy and worked for coca cola.
    in these situations history tends to be kind to people. know what i mean?


    Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post
    There ya go for some proof right there then. Let's see what he's got to support his claim.
    nobody is dis*****g shmeling being a golden boy for hitler/****s you imbecile. 😆

    the topic being discussed is whether he was just a pawn used for propaganda or whether he was a an actual ****.

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      Originally posted by them_apples View Post
      I'm pretty sure in the book "the rise and fall of the third reich" been a while since I read it, has written documentation that the **** party didn't like Schmeling, but they said they could use him for propaganda, or at least try to. Schmeling actually seemed like a bit of a progressive thinker, he seemed less racist than even the acceptable norm of the day.

      That being said, no not every German was a **** in ww2 - but I can sympathize with the statement you make. Plenty of them were sheep like most societies are including America. Whatever the norm is society follows. The **** party was the ruling elite at the time and therefore the norm. Any German that snitched on their neighbours, in my opinion, is a ****, and plenty of them did. Schmeling by a lot of accounts was actually an outcast in this regard, a brave person risking his life for not agreeing with the **** party. I mean, thats what a lot of accounts say. Thats all we can go by.
      I have done some further research on shmeling.

      still no definitive proof he wasnt a ****.

      and there is one glaring thing everyone is overlooking.

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        Originally posted by Rick Taylor View Post
        you make some really great point in an all around great post. i plan to look into some of the things you mention. 🙂

        one thing to remember. years gone by schmeling is seen as a good guy and worked for coca cola.
        in these situations history tends to be kind to people. know what i mean?




        nobody is dis*****g shmeling being a golden boy for hitler/****s you imbecile. 😆

        the topic being discussed is whether he was just a pawn used for propaganda or whether he was a an actual ****.
        You initially only mentioned Schmeling being a ****, the golden boy thing came later when you were called out on that claim.

        So the answer then is you've got no proof to support your claim and you'll just keep moving the goal posts, got it.

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          Hitler did not trust Schmeling (he would not join the party) but liked his propaganda value. Once Max failed the cause by losing to Louis, Hitler had him shipped to the front line like an ordinary grunt.

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            - -One wonders the fates German wunderkinds losing to Americans in those 36 Olympics.

            On a side note, how would Charley Burley fair in the 36 Olympics he qualified for but instead chose the Worker Games in Spain that were cancelled after Franco's revolution started?

            Such are the rolls of the dice loaded by the nefarious fates that we all are forced into.

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              Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post
              You initially only mentioned Schmeling being a ****, the golden boy thing came later when you were called out on that claim.

              So the answer then is you've got no proof to support your claim and you'll just keep moving the goal posts, got it.
              have you done any research on this topic?
              we both know the answer is no. because you are to mentally weak.

              why did shmeling never leave **** germany. whilst others were fleeing.

              as i said you did no research..
              pathetic and mentally weak.

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                Originally posted by Rick Taylor View Post
                have you done any research on this topic?
                we both know the answer is no. because you are to mentally weak.

                why did shmeling never leave **** germany. whilst others were fleeing.

                as i said you did no research..
                pathetic and mentally weak.
                I'm certain he wasn't a **** sympathizer. But that doesn't mean he wasn't a patriotic German.

                Why do people not leave America even when they despise the other party's administration?


                He was a great fighter and great man.

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                  Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
                  I'm certain he wasn't a **** sympathizer. But that doesn't mean he wasn't a patriotic German.
                  Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post

                  He was a great fighter and great man.
                  actually at the time it was more financially lucrative to be in league with the ****s. that is why he stayed while others fled.

                  he was happy to be hitlers champion that beat america and the free world at the time was he not?

                  doesnt sound like a great man to me.
                  everything i have read, heard or seen about shmelings life paints him to be an opportunist.


                  Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View Post
                  Why do people not leave America even when they despise the other party's administration?


                  .
                  not quite the same the same thing, though is it?

                  and this was a point of contention back then. you should read up on it

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                    Originally posted by Rick Taylor View Post
                    have you done any research on this topic?
                    we both know the answer is no. because you are to mentally weak.

                    why did shmeling never leave **** germany. whilst others were fleeing.

                    as i said you did no research..
                    pathetic and mentally weak.
                    You're the one making the claim, so you're the one that has to provide the proof. The onus is on you. So your proof is Schmeling never left Germany and he was Hitler's favorite fighter? That's a pretty weak case. As I said, you got nothing. Mentally weak? I've taken dumps smarter than you. Get back to me when you make it further up the evolutionary scale.

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                      Originally posted by Anthony342 View Post
                      You're the one making the claim, so you're the one that has to provide the proof. The onus is on you. So your proof is Schmeling never left Germany and he was Hitler's favorite fighter? That's a pretty weak case. As I said, you got nothing. Mentally weak? I've taken dumps smarter than you. Get back to me when you make it further up the evolutionary scale.
                      you are basically admitting you are a liar with this post LMAO 🤣

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