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    #61
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
    - -False equivalency.

    The results of the fight have never been disputed, but the incompetence of the NY Commish legendary and ongoing, so STFU and get your minder for assistance.

    The gloves are checked immediately so the fighter can know the gloves are accepted in advance and they're placed in a presumably locked room. Locks have multiple keys...Duh!

    Why would a commish employee want to check approved gloves the night of the fight when he's just a hired stooge.

    Whatever, from the time of possession by the commish to the first bell, the responsibity of the commish is to insure fair protocols are followed that was not the case in this disaster.

    U do realize that with much more security that banks are still robbed from both inside by employees and by outsiders and sometimes by cusumers.
    What, U weren't ever allowed outside much less to go around the block?

    Doubtless!
    I KNEW you would come back with a feeble minded response just like this!! 😆

    Answer me this than....both pairs of gloves are the same make and the same weight, right? Now let's ride with your incredibly ridiculous theory of the Latino seamstress and the case of the phoney gloves! How did they get the gloves into the commissions locked room? More importantly, how did they know which gloves would go to Resto and Which to Collins?

    Of course you will now say Lewis somehow had them smuggled in, right? Which in that case means they could have been changed out after the commission and or Collins father inspected them. That in turn just reiterates this was soley the work of Lewis and Resto.

    Good talk Queenie. Glad you learned something today!! 😉

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      #62
      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
      I KNEW you would come back with a feeble minded response just like this!! 😆

      Answer me this than....both pairs of gloves are the same make and the same weight, right? Now let's ride with your incredibly ridiculous theory of the Latino seamstress and the case of the phoney gloves! How did they get the gloves into the commissions locked room? More importantly, how did they know which gloves would go to Resto and Which to Collins?

      Of course you will now say Lewis somehow had them smuggled in, right? Which in that case means they could have been changed out after the commission and or Collins father inspected them. That in turn just reiterates this was soley the work of Lewis and Resto.

      Good talk Queenie. Glad you learned something today!! 😉
      - -Fighters could order their own styles and brands, but even when the same there would be a box with the fighters' name as the gloves HE submitted.

      I suppose a commish of U ilk could mix up every thing and even do Lewis bidding. That how U made U money?

      U minder been on strike?

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        #63
        That's right celebrate his death as if boxing had any honor or integrity to begin with. This game has always been a rotten sport with no scruples. Boxing never had any real distinction before him and would never have any after him. So what's the fuss; Big deal?

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          #64
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
          - -Fighters could order their own styles and brands, but even when the same there would be a box with the fighters' name as the gloves HE submitted.

          I suppose a commish of U ilk could mix up every thing and even do Lewis bidding. That how U made U money?

          U minder been on strike?
          So let me get this straight. Your story is Lewis secretly hired a Latino seamstress to make a pair of gloves with the padding taken out, than sent them to to commission. And nobody checked these gloves when they arrived or before the fight? My gosh, I'm surprised this didn't happen more often! Either that or it's just plain hard to believe how many others must have gotten away with it for years!!

          As far as the rest of your tall tale...I'm going to send a my friend Pete a message and ask him about the protocol of handling gloves before the fight, when they're being put on, and after the fight. Pete was the boxing commissioner for Foxwoods casino for many years. Pete Timothy. Don't want to be one of those people who pretend to know someone in the business (like Shane Models second) and not give a name. I'll screenshot what he says so you can reference it. In the meantime maybe Rockin' can come in here and shed some light on the topic.
          Last edited by JAB5239; 09-30-2020, 10:52 PM.

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            #65
            Originally posted by TheGR8TESTOAT
            I hate Arum but I wish his son Todd worse. Like Todd actually thinks hes something like self made millionaire when hes nothing without Arum hes basically one of the ***** kids and hes short so he got the short man syndrome.

            Also they exploit the black community and admit to doing so saying how they trying to make another PBF, too bad theres only one PBF and he was smart enough to leave them!
            Oh great, ANOTHER Arum? Is he as bad as that guy Jose Suliamon's son?

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              #66
              Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
              Lol, I'm not going to keep repeating myself to you and following around the insults. If you're to dense to understand and can only respond with insults, that's says more about you than me.

              As far as the gloves go.....it makes much more sense Lewis made a small incision in each glove and used tweezers to pick out the horse hair. The glove were most likely fine when received in the locker room before the fight. Very unlikely a Latino seamstress made a custom pair, especially since the commission hands out the gloves.
              Makes sense. If you watch Assault in the Ring, Resto says he later saw Lewis and another guy take the gloves into the men's room, so they were definitely tampered with later on.
              Last edited by Anthony342; 09-30-2020, 11:12 PM.

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                #67
                §210.8 Gloving. In all boxing contests and exhibitions,
                the gloves of each boxer shall be put on in the dressing
                room under the supervision of a commission
                representative, and the laces of each glove shall be
                knotted on the back of the wrists and there shall be
                placed on the wrists of the gloves, over the laces, a
                strip of one-inch adhesive tape. The gloves shall be
                removed in the dressing room after the bout, under the
                supervision of a commission representative, unless
                otherwise authorized or directed by the commission.


                This is from the New York state Boxing Commissions rules.

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by champion4ever View Post
                  That's right celebrate his death as if boxing had any honor or integrity to begin with. This game has always been a rotten sport with no scruples. Boxing never had any real distinction before him and would never have any after him. So what's the fuss; Big deal?
                  Exactly all the sports have been, let's not be so naive, which is why I don't get people getting all high and mighty about baseball players taking steroids. Amphetamines also effected hitting as well and its banning brought down averages for a few years. From a separate negro league, to bringing in the fences, to a more tightly wound ball to PEDs at one time being legal, the sports have always been different, so I say let the ones that never tested positive get into the halls of fame of their respective sports. Why wouldn't one want to enhance their performance? A hall of fame is all about numbers and performance. When they were legal, they all had an equal chance to use them and still had a chance at alternative legal ones later. It should just be if you have the numbers, you get in. Yet writers seem to play favorites, what douchebags. And why do you think bodybuilding has a regular and clean competition? Exactly.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                    So let me get this straight. Your story is Lewis secretly hired a Latino seamstress to make a pair of gloves with the padding taken out, than sent them to to commission. And nobody checked these gloves when they arrived or before the fight? My gosh, I'm surprised this didn't happen more often! Either that or it's just plain hard to believe how many others must have gotten away with it for years!!

                    As far as the rest of your tall tale...I'm going to send a my friend Pete a message and ask him about the protocol of handling gloves before the fight, when they're being put on, and after the fight. Pete was the boxing commissioner for Foxwoods casino for many years. Pete Timothy. Don't want to be one of those people who pretend to know someone in the business (like Shane Models second) and not give a name. I'll screenshot what he says so you can reference it. In the meantime maybe Rockin' can come in here and shed some light on the topic.
                    - -U garbled dyslexia ain't never gonna know.

                    I proposed the most likely scenario, but there are others.

                    It's scary to think U might be licensed to drive, registered to vote, and own a gun, or shudder, might even qualify to run for the US presidency if U had no felony convictions.

                    Where U minder? On strike?

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post
                      - -U garbled dyslexia ain't never gonna know.

                      I proposed the most likely scenario, but there are others.

                      It's scary to think U might be licensed to drive, registered to vote, and own a gun, or shudder, might even qualify to run for the US presidency if U had no felony convictions.

                      Where U minder? On strike?
                      Your scenario is highly unlikely, and as always, you didn't answer any questions about all the holes you left in your ridiculousness.

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