who could stop tyson back in the day?

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he got straight back up from all of them though and in 3 of the 4 he went on to win the fight

Where as Tyson lost whenever he got knocked down!

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I think Ali would of had some a tough time with tyson. Ali was knocked down 4 times in his career Ithink and 3 of them were from left hook. Tyson had great head movement and I think it would be a great.
#1 Sonny Banks 1962-left hook
#2 Henry Cooper 1963-left hook
#3 Joe frazier 1971-left hook
#4 Joe Wepner 1975-straight right to the body (Ali tripped over wepners foot)

henry cooper knocked ali down too

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Where as Tyson lost whenever he got knocked down!

exactly!

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henry cooper knocked ali down too

he mentioned cooper.

He also mentioned someone named Joe Wepner....

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he mentioned cooper.

He also mentioned someone named Joe Wepner....

Its chuck wepner. but joe wepner sounds rite if u didnt know his name was chuck, which it is, or was if hes dead.

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Its chuck wepner. but joe wepner sounds rite if u didnt know his name was chuck, which it is, or was if hes dead.

I know it's chuck wepner. and big chucks still alive and well.

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but how would u know if its all tyson has. i saw tyson hit tony tucker(for me) with the most hardest shots i've ever seen some1 take from tyson without going down.and tyson still went 12rounds that fight without being discouraged

The trouble with that example is Tyson was great as long as he was on top.
Against Tucker he was always going forward and Tucker was trying to catch him with counters.
Tucker hurt his right hand which had had some success with earlier in the fight, catching Tyson with some nice right uppercuts. After he hurt it, he stopped throwing it and Tyson then dominated.

Agaisnt a Frazier, or Marciano, Foreman or even Holyfield, he would be met head on with a guy who can not only take a great shot but punch very hard. Tyson never really met that opponent in his prime, a guy who gave it back.
There was Ruddock and some others who tried to fight with him, but they werent great power punchers who pushed Tyson back.
Frazier would have pushed him back.

When it comes down to it, its about who wants it more, not who has the better technique or punches.
The fights where Tyson went the distance, he dominated. Frazier and Marciano had a few fights where they had to keep perservering and make comeback knockouts. Tyson never did that. He never faced somone who made him dig deep like that.

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The trouble with that example is Tyson was great as long as he was on top.
Against Tucker he was always going forward and Tucker was trying to catch him with counters.
Tucker hurt his right hand which had had some success with earlier in the fight, catching Tyson with some nice right uppercuts. After he hurt it, he stopped throwing it and Tyson then dominated.

Agaisnt a Frazier, or Marciano, Foreman or even Holyfield, he would be met head on with a guy who can not only take a great shot but punch very hard. Tyson never really met that opponent in his prime, a guy who gave it back.
There was Ruddock and some others who tried to fight with him, but they werent great power punchers who pushed Tyson back.
Frazier would have pushed him back.

When it comes down to it, its about who wants it more, not who has the better technique or punches.
The fights where Tyson went the distance, he dominated. Frazier and Marciano had a few fights where they had to keep perservering and make comeback knockouts. Tyson never did that. He never faced somone who made him dig deep like that.

yeah he didnt. the closest person i would say is jose ribalta getting up from 2 knockdowns

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yeah he didnt. the closest person i would say is jose ribalta getting up from 2 knockdowns

Yea but Tyson was hitting him with everything and Ribalta had nothing to fire back with.
Id say Bonecrusher Smith tested Tysons paitence with all that holding, and Pinklon Thomas was doing well for a few rounds, but Tyson was being lazy until Rooney gave him a mouthful and guess wat....next round Tyson KO's him.
Rooney was so important.

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The hardest thing Tyson had to deal with was an opponent not staying down and actually having the nerve to hit back. He never had his nose split open like Marciano, his ear hanging on by a thread like Dempsey vs. Brennan, or his arm broken like Marcel Cerdan vs. LaMotta or a broken jaw like Liston vs. Marshall.

Tyson had heart, but honestly, no one can say he had anything remotely close to Frazier, Marciano, Dempsey, Louis, Ali, Holmes's heart. That's just a fact. He had heart, more than the average fighter, but nothing legendary. Nothing close to as impressive as his skill and as Ali said, for a fighter to be truly great, the will must surpass the skill.

Tyson was a physical phenom, but lacked confidence in himself and the true grit that the great heavyweights had. He would have a solid puncher's chance against anyone in history, but in the end he always ended up unraveling mentally when he was tested.