The History of Boxing in Ancient Egypt.

[Marchegiano]

Egypt is part of the African continent as you said.

So it's not unreasonable to assume that somewhere along the line maybe ancient Egyptian boxing influenced Nigerian Dambe boxing and the wrist knife fighting method of the Turkana tribe of Kenya.

Hence why a black guy might have interest in this topic.

Dude's just a troll. I wouldn't pay him any attention.

Egypt had plenty of interactions and cultural exchanges with the rest of Africa.

For Persia's part, Persia controlled the land between Rome and India and made good money being the middleman.

Starting around 100 BC a route from Egypt to India was established, making use of the Red Sea and using monsoon winds to cross the Arabian Sea directly to southern India. By about 100 AD, the volume of traffic being shipped on this route had eclipsed older routes. Roman demand for goods from southern India increased dramatically, resulting in greater number of large ships sailing down the Red Sea from Roman Egypt to the Arabian Sea and India

The Kingdom of Aksum was ideally located to take advantage of the new trading situation. Adulis soon became the main port for the export of African goods, such as ivory, incense, gold, ******, and exotic animals. In order to supply such goods the kings of Aksum worked to develop and expand an inland trading network. A rival, and much older trading network that tapped the same interior region of Africa was that of the Kingdom of Kush, which had long supplied Egypt with African goods via the Nile corridor. By the 1st century AD, however, Aksum had gained control over territory previously Ku****e. The Periplus of the Erythraean Sea explicitly describes how ivory collected in Ku****e territory was being exported through the port of Adulis instead of being taken to Meroë, the capital of Kush. During the 2nd and 3rd centuries AD the Kingdom of Aksum continued to expand their control of the southern Red Sea basin. A caravan route to Egypt was established which bypassed the Nile corridor entirely. Aksum succeeded in becoming the principal supplier of African goods to the Roman Empire, not least as a result of the transformed Indian Ocean trading system.

But yeah.....Egypt is the middle east....sure. Africans got no reason to study an Egypt from before Rome huh?

Also, the Andromeda myth. The Greeks sure seem to think the Egyptians were African...they were there.

[Zmerai Khan]

Egypt is part of the African continent as you said.

So it's not unreasonable to assume that somewhere along the line maybe ancient Egyptian boxing influenced Nigerian Dambe boxing and the wrist knife fighting method of the Turkana tribe of Kenya.

Hence why a black guy might have interest in this topic.

You read nothing I said. Or you simply lack the education to comprehend it. That would explain why you think a Middle Eastern people have anything to do with Blacks.

The only influence Egyptians, Arabs and ***s had on Blacks was enslaving them. They saw/see them as natural ******. Not Seljuks, of course, but as chattel.

Egypt and Nigeria have less in common than Persia and Japan. It's that simple. Didn't races. Different history. Different realities. The only people to argue that would be Boko Charam.

[Zmerai Khan]

Dude's just a troll. I wouldn't pay him any attention.

Egypt had plenty of interactions and cultural exchanges with the rest of Africa.

For Persia's part, Persia controlled the land between Rome and India and made good money being the middleman.

Starting around 100 BC a route from Egypt to India was established, making use of the Red Sea and using monsoon winds to cross the Arabian Sea directly to southern India. By about 100 AD, the volume of traffic being shipped on this route had eclipsed older routes. Roman demand for goods from southern India increased dramatically, resulting in greater number of large ships sailing down the Red Sea from Roman Egypt to the Arabian Sea and India

The Kingdom of Aksum was ideally located to take advantage of the new trading situation. Adulis soon became the main port for the export of African goods, such as ivory, incense, gold, ******, and exotic animals. In order to supply such goods the kings of Aksum worked to develop and expand an inland trading network. A rival, and much older trading network that tapped the same interior region of Africa was that of the Kingdom of Kush, which had long supplied Egypt with African goods via the Nile corridor. By the 1st century AD, however, Aksum had gained control over territory previously Ku****e. The Periplus of the Erythraean Sea explicitly describes how ivory collected in Ku****e territory was being exported through the port of Adulis instead of being taken to Meroë, the capital of Kush. During the 2nd and 3rd centuries AD the Kingdom of Aksum continued to expand their control of the southern Red Sea basin. A caravan route to Egypt was established which bypassed the Nile corridor entirely. Aksum succeeded in becoming the principal supplier of African goods to the Roman Empire, not least as a result of the transformed Indian Ocean trading system.

But yeah.....Egypt is the middle east....sure. Africans got no reason to study an Egypt from before Rome huh?

Also, the Andromeda myth. The Greeks sure seem to think the Egyptians were African...they were there.

I love your endless rants. You're really adorable. But don't pretend to know history simply because you scour Wikipedia for hours at a time.

Egyptians were the same as the people of Anatolia and the Levant. Probably they were related to Etruscans and people of the Balkans as well.

Clearly they were White, but not indo- european. Kinda like those damn Turks!
Fascinating stuff. Shouldn't be contaminated with falsehoods.

[ShoulderRoll]

You read nothing I said. Or you simply lack the education to comprehend it. That would explain why you think a Middle Eastern people have anything to do with Blacks.

The only influence Egyptians, Arabs and ***s had on Blacks was enslaving them. They saw/see them as natural ******. Not Seljuks, of course, but as chattel.
Egypt and Nigeria have less in common than Persia and Japan. It's that simple. Didn't races. Different history. Different realities. The only people to argue that would be Boko Charam.

So you're saying ancient Egyptians had no influence on the continent of Africa? Outside of slavery?

[MDPopescu]

So you're saying ancient Egyptians had no influence on the continent of Africa? Outside of slavery?

... the title of this thread reads: "The History of Boxing in Ancient Egypt"... and assumes that boxing started in Egypt... which simply isn't true!!!
Boxing started "before" it was documented in Egypt...

[ShoulderRoll]

... the title of this thread reads: "The History of Boxing in Ancient Egypt"... and assumes that boxing started in Egypt... which simply isn't true!!!
Boxing started "before" it was documented in Egypt...

I did post an article on the first page of this thread covering Sumeria and how there are depictions from there of fighters with straps around their wrists.

[MDPopescu]

I did post an article on the first page of this thread covering Sumeria and how there are depictions from there of fighters with straps around their wrists.

... well, man... we all take into account that "documented history"... it seems that "boxing" was the most "ancient sport" allover... one can't just "simply" start with Egypt in order to trace back the "origins" and "pre-eminence" of its African roots... OK, OK, we all know the "Out Of Africa" model theory of **** Sapiens, though...

[ShoulderRoll]

... well, man... we all take into account that "documented history"... it seems that "boxing" was the most "ancient sport" allover... one can't just "simply" start with Egypt in order to trace back the "origins" and "pre-eminence" of its African roots... OK, OK, we all know the "Out Of Africa" model theory of **** Sapiens, though...

I don't think anyone is claiming that ancient Egypt originated boxing. Just that it existed back then.

I believe the oldest records of combat sports are from Sumeria.

And there is thought that Sumerian culture influenced ancient Egypt.

[MDPopescu]

... well, man... we all take into account that "documented history"... it seems that "boxing" was the most "ancient sport" allover... one can't just "simply" start with Egypt in order to trace back the "origins" and "pre-eminence" of its African roots... OK, OK, we all know the "Out Of Africa" model theory of **** Sapiens, though...

I don't think anyone is claiming that ancient Egypt originated boxing. Just that it existed back then.

I believe the oldest records of combat sports are from Sumeria.

And there is thought that Sumerian culture influenced ancient Egypt.

... OK...

the **** in my post above are simply because I said "Homo Sapiens"... ( now you can imagine what "BANNING" words really leads to... "Homo Sapiens" is banned here...

[Marchegiano]

I love your endless rants. You're really adorable. But don't pretend to know history simply because you scour Wikipedia for hours at a time.

Egyptians were the same as the people of Anatolia and the Levant. Probably they were related to Etruscans and people of the Balkans as well.

Clearly they were White, but not indo- european. Kinda like those damn Turks!
Fascinating stuff. Shouldn't be contaminated with falsehoods.

Awe, you can't actually speak to history at all can you?

I think it's cute how you immediately went and looked that **** up. Now look up Nubian history.

A good levant culture that init?

What can you expect when you attach yourself to basement history? Yep, you can really tell the eastern influence in the Andromeda myth.

Wawat and Tosetti are the name of the regions. You'd know this if you knew your ass.

Nubian is the name of the culture and people. You'd know that as well if you knew your ass.

Sudan is the modern state that influenced Egypt into what it is today. Clearly them were white Sudanese huh?

We get the term Nubian from the Greeks. The same folk who let us know Egyptians culture mostly started in Nubia and worked its way north down the nile river before archeology pointed that out.


Which is why Nubia has more pyramids than Egypt and the middle east does not. Now off you pop to try to string together some bull**** as if you have ever had any real interest in anything but perpetuating lies you like to believe.

Egypt is African. Cry all you want about it, doesn't change the fact that over the centuries their main influence was Sudan.

You want to be able to pretend like blinks in people groups outweighs millenia of cultural exchange. It's comically absurd.