How Did You Score It RBR: Marvin Hagler vs Ray Leonard

[Eff Pandas]

April 6, 1987
Caesars Palace, Outdoor Arena, Las Vegas, NV
Promoter: Top Rank/Bob Arum


Undercard:

Lupe Aquino (24yrs, 29-2-1, 21KO's, 155lbs) KO5 Davey Moore (27yrs, 16-3, 12KO's, 155lbs)

Random Facts: Aquino would win the WBC 154lb title in his next fight, 3 months later vs Duane Thomas & Davey Moore would be dead 14 months later in a tragic accident.

Juan Roldan (30yrs 63-3-2, 43KO's, 161lbs) KO9 James Kinchen (29yrs, 37-2-2, 29KO's, 161lbs)

Random Fact: Roldan would fight Thomas Hearns 6 months later, again in Las Vegas, losing by 4th round KO.

Mickey Ward (21yrs, 12-0, 8KO's, 139lbs) KO4 Kelly Koble (27yrs, 12-5-1, 4KO's, 142lbs)

Anthony Jones (20yrs, 12-0, 5KO's, 138lbs) D8 Frankie Davis (25yrs, 16-5-1, 9KO's, ?lbs)

Random Fact: Davis fought Roger Mayweather 6 weeks after this fight losing by 5th round KO.

Rigoberto Lopez (22yrs, 17-3, 7KO's, 147lbs) W6 Robert Sawyer (28yrs, 12-12, 7KO's, 147lbs)

Brian Powers (22yrs, 1-0, 1KO, 145 1/2lbs) W4 Celio Olivar (23yrs, 2-0, 2KO's, 147lbs)

Random Fact: Powers never lost a fight. He retired in 1998 at age 33 with a 17-0-1, 8KO record. He also only fought 4 opponents with a winning record.

Main Event:

"Marvelous" Marvin Hagler
(32yrs, 62-2-2, 52KO's, 158 1/2lbs)

vs

"Sugar" Ray Leonard
(30yrs, 33-1, 24KO's, 158lbs)

Official Judges Scorecards:
Jose Guerra 118-110 SRL
Dave Moretti 115-113 SRL
Lou Filippo 115-113 MMH

Ray Leonard Ws12 Marvin Hagler

Notable Unofficial Scorecards:

Howard Cosell 117-112 SRL
Harold Lederman 115-113 SRL
Nigel Collins 115-113 SRL
Larry Merchant 114-114 EVEN
Al Bernstein 115-113 MMH

Random Fact: Official Judge Jose Guerra's 118-110 card was heavily criticized. Harry Gibbs was originally going to be the judge instead of Guerra, but Hagler's team disputed Gibbs & Guerra got put in. Gibbs scored the fight at home later & had Hagler winning.



Feel free to copy/paste the scorecard below to score the fight rbr as you watch it.

Round 1:
Round 2:
Round 3:
Round 4:
Round 5:
Round 6:
Round 7:
Round 8:
Round 9:
Round 10:
Round 11:
Round 12:

[Eff Pandas]

My card

Round 1: SRL 10-9, SRL 10-9, all SRL, MMH just stalking him the whole rd

Round 2: SRL 10-9, SRL 20-18, closer rd, but SRL landing the better shots, holding alot doe too

Round 3: SRL 10-9, SRL 30-27, pretty close rd, couldn't fault anyone for giving this one to MMH

Round 4: SRL 10-9, SRL 40-36, lotsa running & holding by SRL, but still doing more work too

Round 5: MMH 10-9, SRL 49-46, really good rd for MMH, last min was pretty much all MMH

Round 6: SRL 10-9, SRL 59-55, close-ish rd, thought SRL had the more meaningful punches + more active

Round 7: MMH 10-9, SRL 68-65, easy MMH rd, SRL kinda took it off it looked like

Round 8: SRL 10-9, SRL 78-74, SRL more effective, making MMH miss & pay much of the rd

Round 9: MMH 10-9, SRL 87-84, a war in this rd, SRL on the ropes for most of the rd which got MMH landing some good shots

Round 10: MMH 10-9, SRL 96-94, MMH more consistent, SRL fighting in spurts

Round 11: MMH 10-9, SRL 105-104, MMH again more consistent, SRL looks exhausted & fighting in spurts

Round 12: SRL 10-9, SRL 115-113, SRL doing a lot of running, but also much more effective

[billeau2]

April 6, 1987
Caesars Palace, Outdoor Arena, Las Vegas, NV
Promoter: Top Rank/Bob Arum


Undercard:

Lupe Aquino (24yrs, 29-2-1, 21KO's, 155lbs) KO5 Davey Moore (27yrs, 16-3, 12KO's, 155lbs)

Random Facts: Aquino would win the WBC 154lb title in his next fight, 3 months later vs Duane Thomas & Davey Moore would be dead 14 months later in a tragic accident.

Juan Roldan (30yrs 63-3-2, 43KO's, 161lbs) KO9 James Kinchen (29yrs, 37-2-2, 29KO's, 161lbs)

Random Fact: Roldan would fight Thomas Hearns 6 months later, again in Las Vegas, losing by 4th round KO.

Mickey Ward (21yrs, 12-0, 8KO's, 139lbs) KO4 Kelly Koble (27yrs, 12-5-1, 4KO's, 142lbs)

Anthony Jones (20yrs, 12-0, 5KO's, 138lbs) D8 Frankie Davis (25yrs, 16-5-1, 9KO's, ?lbs)

Random Fact: Davis fought Roger Mayweather 6 weeks after this fight losing by 5th round KO.

Rigoberto Lopez (22yrs, 17-3, 7KO's, 147lbs) W6 Robert Sawyer (28yrs, 12-12, 7KO's, 147lbs)

Brian Powers (22yrs, 1-0, 1KO, 145 1/2lbs) W4 Celio Olivar (23yrs, 2-0, 2KO's, 147lbs)

Random Fact: Powers never lost a fight. He retired in 1998 at age 33 with a 17-0-1, 8KO record. He also only fought 4 opponents with a winning record.

Main Event:

"Marvelous" Marvin Hagler
(32yrs, 62-2-1, 52KO's, 158 1/2lbs)

vs

"Sugar" Ray Leonard
(30yrs, 33-1, 24KO's, 158lbs)

Official Judges Scorecards:
Jose Guerra 118-110 SRL
Dave Moretti 115-113 SRL
Lou Filippo 115-113 MMH

Ray Leonard Ws12 Marvin Hagler

Notable Unofficial Scorecards:

Howard Cosell 117-112 SRL
Harold Lederman 115-113 SRL
Nigel Collins 115-113 SRL
Larry Merchant 114-114 EVEN
Al Bernstein 115-113 MMH

Random Fact: Official Judge Jose Guerra's 118-110 card was heavily criticized. Harry Gibbs was originally going to be the judge instead of Guerra, but Hagler's team disputed Gibbs & Guerra got put in. Gibbs scored the fight at home later & had Hagler winning.



Feel free to copy/paste the scorecard below to score the fight rbr as you watch it.

Round 1:
Round 2:
Round 3:
Round 4:
Round 5:
Round 6:
Round 7:
Round 8:
Round 9:
Round 10:
Round 11:
Round 12:

Round 1:Leonard
Round 2:Leonard
Round 3:Leonard
Round 4:Leonard
Round 5:Hagler
Round 6:Leonard
Round 7:Hagler
Round 8:Hagler
Round 9:Hagler
Round 10:Leonard
Round 11:Hagler
Round 12:Hagler

A draw.

note: all 10-9 rounds. Ray should have been penalized for holding and I suck at scoring fights.

[OctoberRed]

I had it a draw but had a feeling Leonard would get the nod.

[_Rexy_]

dunno what your server error is.....but this is a good idea, wouldn't mind seeing this as a stickied thread where maybe a bunch of us score old, controversial fights on a weekly basis or something like that. I'm going to sub this, and hopefully I can score the fight after work in the morning if I have time.

Pretty sure I had it 2 rounds for Hagler. But its been so long, I'd love to watch again objectively.

[OctoberRed]

dunno what your server error is.....but this is a good idea, wouldn't mind seeing this as a stickied thread where maybe a bunch of us score old, controversial fights on a weekly basis or something like that. I'm going to sub this, and hopefully I can score the fight after work in the morning if I have time.

Pretty sure I had it 2 rounds for Hagler. But its been so long, I'd love to watch again objectively.

That's a great idea.