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    #11
    Originally posted by Dempsey-Louis View Post
    Agreed, it's cultural. Otherwise we couldn't explain all those great Irish fighters.
    Yup. Its like toothpaste versus if I took a giant two gallon container and filled it with toothpaste and the toothpaste nozzle, and then took a regular standard issue toothpaste container filled up... The two gallon container is hard plastic, so when you actually want toothpaste, it is a hell of a lot easier to use the tube...

    Social and cultural factors are the toothpaste container, they squeeze the toothpaste forward and will let you pretty much drain that toothpaste container... On the other hand, you have two gallons of toothpaste, but good luck getting it out, nothing allows you to squeeze it!

    The Irish were squeezed by famine, tough living, war with the british, etc... As most ********** that come up, are somehow squeezed forwards. Getting that toothpaste out of the gallon container is a chore... something needs to pressure the sides and make it come forwards.... But when one can... they will get quite a bit of paste.

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      #12
      It's like 'is. Upon their own authority they have decided that all differences between races are superficial. Any difference you might find, is necessarily superficial, they want to insist, as if such a thing has ever been proven. To them it stands as solidly as a natural law, and they insist it carry the same esteem with you.

      A bunch of old British colonists defecating in chamber pots didn't settle anything, however, with their pronouncement that all men are created equal. It was a political document and we think the egalitarianism referred to was a political and religious one, not a biological one.

      To some of our board members and to many people of ******* society in general, one is a racist unless you believe that none of these "superficial," adaptations would better dispose any particular race toward an advantage in any important human enterprise. In an unimportant enterprise, it would be okay if they did, though. But if you believe any of these adaptations would predispose any race toward superiority at anything "important," that makes you a racist, and you are as guilty as any racist can be, according to their modern norms.

      Blacks appear to have gotten most of the fast twitch fibers in the genetic lottery. Lomachencko is the first fast white guy in over twenty years, probably thirty. He may be the first really fast white fighter since Pep! You mean that is not of interest for something other than possible racist content?

      Fastest blacks: Howard Davis, Roy Jones, Ray Leonard, Ali, Mayweather, Derrick Gainer, Norris, Hearns, Tyson,

      Fastest whites: Pep, Lomachenko, Benny Leonard, Tunney,

      Fastest Latins: Camacho

      Latins are pipsqueak fighters, so had ought to be a little faster, on average, but few stand out, mind you.

      Hearns is not the fastest black by any means. But who was the last white before Lomachenko who was even as fast as big Tommy, I ask? Go ahead and wrack your brains. I am wracking mine.

      Notice I can find as many super fast modern blacks as I can find super fast latins and whites put together if I use all eras! That speaks loud and clear.
      Last edited by The Old LefHook; 02-24-2018, 10:48 PM.

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        #13
        Let us look in greater depth at the rich tables I, II & III.

        Table I: Fastest blacks: Howard Davis, Roy Jones, Ray Leonard, Ali, Mayweather, Derrick Gainer, Norris, Hearns, Tyson,

        Table II: Fastest whites: Pep, Lomachenko, Benny Leonard, Tunney.

        Table III: Fastest Latins: Camacho

        Whites + Latins=5

        Blacks alone=9

        Blacks have an overwhelming advantage in speed. Couple this with eight or nine times the testosterone level of a typical white or chinaman, and you have a fighting machine.

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          #14
          It should be no surprise that science wins again. Whew! that scientific study was draining!

          Let us inspect Table III. Find entry (1,1), where Camacho is located. Popo does not deserve to be there, and notice he isn't.

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            #15
            Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
            It should be no surprise that science wins again. Whew! that scientific study was draining!

            Let us inspect Table III. Find entry (1,1), where Camacho is located. Popo does not deserve to be there, and notice he isn't.
            It has nothing to do with science leffy. You are just a pocket philosopher.

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              #16
              Originally posted by BattlingNelson View Post
              It has nothing to do with science leffy. You are just a pocket philosopher.
              Pocket, my pockey. Pour over my research again. Tables I, II & III represent a tremendous amount of work and encapsulate the phenomenon of racial disparity in boxing. Advanced statistics might be beyond you. You will need multi-variable calculus. Do you have it?

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                #17
                I would say Klitschko, Calzaghe is there too. It's certainly not Pavlik, Cooney or Spadafora.

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