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    #11
    This may be a biased view but I would have to go with Foreman. I say biased because like everyone else here i have never seen Jefferies fight. He lost to Jack Johnson granted Johnson was in his prime and Jefferies was in anything but his prime. I woul still go with Foreman.

    Foreman Vs. Marciano?

    Marciano. Marciano does well against power hitters and is one of the most powerful ever himself. Marciano would take Foremans hits and deliever his own, then in later round Marciano would dominate. Marciano stanima is much better.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Hous
      This may be a biased view but I would have to go with Foreman. I say biased because like everyone else here i have never seen Jefferies fight. He lost to Jack Johnson granted Johnson was in his prime and Jefferies was in anything but his prime. I woul still go with Foreman.

      Foreman Vs. Marciano?

      Marciano. Marciano does well against power hitters and is one of the most powerful ever himself. Marciano would take Foremans hits and deliever his own, then in later round Marciano would dominate. Marciano stanima is much better.
      Interesting take...I'd have to definetly disagree with the Marciano-Foreman prognosis, though. I see that as alost a replica of Foreman-Frazeir I. Mariano at 5'10" and 185 Lbs against Foreman's 6'3" 220 Lbs with those upercuts...

      Well, like I said, it's an interesting take.

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        #13
        Interesting take...I'd have to definetly disagree with the Marciano-Foreman prognosis, though. I see that as alost a replica of Foreman-Frazeir I. Mariano at 5'10" and 185 Lbs against Foreman's 6'3" 220 Lbs with those upercuts...
        Indeed, and Marciano a swarmer fighting Foreman a slugger - suicide for the rock.

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          #14
          foreman easily against jeffries...if jack johnson knocked jeffries out so easily imagine what sumone with foremans powa would do? prolly knock him thru the ropes...and against marciano? prolly bounce him up n down off the mat worse than frazier was...

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            #15
            Foreman + 4oz gloves + basically any opponent = death in under 5 rounds

            all he has to do is hit somebody hard with his fist and death

            granted Jefferies is a good fighter IMO

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              #16
              I don't know much about James Jeffries, other than that he is supposed to have been a tough sob. If he really was that strong, powerful and tough, then he would present George Foreman with more than a decent challenge.

              I will still favor Foreman though. His modern day fighting style, combined with his massive strenght and punching power, gives him the edge by midround tko.

              George Foreman by tko7

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                #17
                K-Dogg you don't see Foreman winning because you have no clue to what you are talking about.Jack Johnson manhandled Jeffries so why in the world would you say something as ****** as Foreman couldn't?Foreman was rarely hit in his prime so how is defense poor?And as someone else said the gloves were only 4 ounces back then.If Johnson a 190 pounder who wasn't known for having a good chin or a really big heavyweight punch could blast him out then Foreman would do it even quicker.
                People assume fighters from that era had good stamina because they went more rounds right?But they only threw one punch at a time.Bacially punch then hold punch and hold.None of this crap would of worked against fighters from Dempsey to today.
                Foreman or any other decent heavyweight would murder Jeffries.
                Foreman in one round.

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                  #18
                  its hard to judge jeffries because of the lack of footage

                  there is no way marciano would defeat a prime foreman it would be foreman-frazier all over again

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                    #19
                    ill have to go with tommyhearns on this one

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by tommyhearns804
                      K-Dogg you don't see Foreman winning because you have no clue to what you are talking about.Jack Johnson manhandled Jeffries so why in the world would you say something as ****** as Foreman couldn't?Foreman was rarely hit in his prime so how is defense poor?And as someone else said the gloves were only 4 ounces back then.If Johnson a 190 pounder who wasn't known for having a good chin or a really big heavyweight punch could blast him out then Foreman would do it even quicker.
                      People assume fighters from that era had good stamina because they went more rounds right?But they only threw one punch at a time.Bacially punch then hold punch and hold.None of this crap would of worked against fighters from Dempsey to today.
                      Foreman or any other decent heavyweight would murder Jeffries.
                      Foreman in one round.
                      Are you serious? Have you done no research at all?

                      First of all, I can't believe you're using the Jeffries that fought Johnson as an example. That Jeffries was 35 years old, had been in retirement for 5 years, and had ballooned up to 300 Lbs in the interim...and lost all that weight in a matter of months before fighting Johnson, who was very close to in his prime. Johnson beat up on an old man, end of story.

                      Secondly, Johnson did have a decent set of whiskers...don't know where you get that he didn't; and was incredibly strong on the inside...and it still took him 15 rounds to knock out that old man.

                      Another thing....that whole myth about "those older fighters" throwing one punch at a time all the time is ridiculously inaccurate. Don't believe me? Find some footage of the first Gans-Nelson fight or read some newspaper accounts of Stanly Ketchel's wars..I recommend old Police Gazette coverage; or find the footage of Jeffries-Sharkey II.

                      I don't mind a difference of opinion; but don't insult my intelligence with the kind of uneducated ramblings you just printed.
                      Last edited by K-DOGG; 05-01-2006, 10:24 AM.

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