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    #21
    Originally posted by WalkerSmithJnr View Post
    So you're sticking with Dempsey being prime against Tunney?

    Also Greb and Tunney never fought at HW, Greb was always well within the LHW limit.
    That's good of you to point out that stat to me.. We will eliminate Greb from Tunney's list

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      #22
      Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
      That's good of you to point out that stat to me.. We will eliminate Greb from Tunney's list
      And Dempsey?
      I'm not saying Dempsey was shot but he was a long way from prime.

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        #23
        Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
        Bill, as i explained earlier, the thread question is "Prime World Class Opposition" which means, fighters who were "in their prime" "At the Top of their Game"... and stop claiming i am piss on Lewis. I never mentioned Lewis, Others brought him into the equation. But if you cannot name "Prime" opponents Lewis fought, then he has to be eliminated from the list historically.
        No matter what anyone gives you you're going to twist it just to belittle Lewis. We've all seen it a million times already.

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          #24
          Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
          Holyfield Robbed second fight.



          Tua - fringe contender



          Klitschko - Debate still rages on today, about this fight. Did Lewis beat him or was Vitali robbed?...
          Holyfield, 2nd fight was closer but Lewis won.

          I would imagine Tua was a top 5 contender so not fringe. As for his weight or Morrison's HIV Lewis wasn't to know when the fights were signed

          Klitschko was a good stoppage. Lewis was losing the fight 4 rounds to 2 but there was a long way to go. Unless it was a diabolical verdict or stoppage you can't call it a robbery. Also 4-2 after 6 rounds isn't a fighter dominating. Lewis was terrible but pulled out the win and chose a good time to retire.

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            #25
            Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
            No matter what anyone gives you you're going to twist it just to belittle Lewis. We've all seen it a million times already.
            Good luck dealing with that weird man and his disturbing obsession.

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              #26
              If you ignore him he'll post to himself for a few days then go away, hopefully!

              Obviously Hagler & Lewis scared this young fellow in his sleep or it's a fanboy love/hate attraction. Either way this kid is another tool fool! bye...

              Ray

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                #27
                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                No matter what anyone gives you you're going to twist it just to belittle Lewis. We've all seen it a million times already.
                Like i said earlier, you are funny JAB. lol.. Your wrong with your assumption, i alway's give every fighter a fair throw of the dice, Lewis included. If you believe something is not true or correct, then point it out and it can be debated. But i do hope you are not going to do what you did in the past. Can you recall, what your policy was JAB?.. Let me remind you. Whenever Lennox Lewis was brought up in a thread, You would try and most times succeed, in having that thread quickly go into the vault of history. You would delete any posts which did not glorify Lewis. You had it were, "Lewis place in history was carved in stone at No3 ATG" - it was not up for debate or discusion, because you said so.

                Well JAB, I have never brought up Lewis in this thread if you look. Someone else, in fact two posters brought Lewis into the equation, and because they brought him into the thread, i addressed their posts on Lewis.. Now if you feel i have spoken out of turn, or made a comment on the matter, which in your opinion is not correct or true. Then please point it out, and we can debate it or refute it. Now i cannot be fairer than that can i ?..

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
                  Good luck dealing with that weird man and his disturbing obsession.
                  You know that i know, there is nothing you could add to this thread. There is nothing you can refute, because you know it is all factually correct what is being said.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by WalkerSmithJnr View Post
                    Holyfield, 2nd fight was closer but Lewis won.

                    I would imagine Tua was a top 5 contender so not fringe. As for his weight or Morrison's HIV Lewis wasn't to know when the fights were signed

                    Klitschko was a good stoppage. Lewis was losing the fight 4 rounds to 2 but there was a long way to go. Unless it was a diabolical verdict or stoppage you can't call it a robbery. Also 4-2 after 6 rounds isn't a fighter dominating. Lewis was terrible but pulled out the win and chose a good time to retire.
                    Sorry, i cannot accept Holyfield as being "PRIME" in 1999. Lewis himself was not PRIME in 1999.. David Tua i cannot accept as being "PRIME World Class" Tua weighed 250lbs he looked and fought, pathetic. However i do accept that Vitali Klitschko was certainly "In his PRIME" when he fought Lewis.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by sonnyboyx2 View Post
                      Again Bill, you are completely Wrong, and making a fool of yourself. The thread asks "PRIME OPPONENTS" not world class or second class, it say's "Prime opponents" which means exactly how i defind the opening thread question: Rid**** Bowe beat Prime` Holyfield (twice)

                      Foreman - beat Prime Frazier, Norton & Moorer

                      Tunney - beat prime Dempsey (twice) Greb (four times)

                      Are you claiming your list of Lewis opponents were "In their Prime" ?

                      I have not mentioned Lewis on this thread, i only listed a handfull of ATG Heavyweights.. Lewis has been brought into the equation by other posters lol
                      Read the title of your thread Sonny. It says nothing about Primes. Yu moved to prime when you decided it would be ludicrious to say that Lewis never beat world class opposition, are you like ******ed? i mean you know how transparent this is?

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