Most complete fighter ever lived.

[XionComrade]

Ummm...

Roy Jones
George Foreman
Mike Tyson
Robinson and Leonard and a million others...lol

Those guys are the first to come in mind, and the greatest athletes to ever step into...anything.

[tommyhearns804]

I know alot of people here said or will say Sugar Ray Robinson or Ali.But let me show you how wrong you are.First of all Robinson had a glass chin.He was knocked down tons of times.He just got back up.But going down in to begin with means he couldnt really take a punch.Robinson also ducked any black fighter he thought would beat him (Robinson ducked guys like Burley completely like a *****)Robinson padded his record probably more than any other known fighter besides maybe Marciano and Joe Louis.If Robinson had to fight the middleweights from the 80's he would of been ripped apart.
Ali was hurt countless amounts of times.He only went down 4 or so times but he was still rocked by 1 punch a bunch of other times.Ali wasn't much of a puncher.His d-fense was pretty lousy which is the reason he suffered the damage that haunts him today.
Ali never worked the body.He got tired alot and for a fighter who didnt have much pop on his punches meant he had to go the distance to often.
The most complete fighters that i have seen would be these fighters.Lennox Lewis (Lewis had a pretty good chin.Sure he got knocked out by one punch 2 times but Ali was almost knocked out by Cooper a man much smaller than he was.At least the guys who knocked Lewis out were 230 pounds or more.Not to mention Lewis fought Bruno,Morrison, and Tyson and never was bothered by their punches)
Foreman(The whole bullcrap about Foreman being slow and wild is just that bull Ali used to get in Foremans head and now it has stucked)If Foreman was so slow then more fighters would of avoided being knocked out by him including fighters like Norton who was a pretty damn good boxer.
Hagler i dont really have to say anything about him you know he was complete.Spinks as a light heavyweight was pretty complete.
If i had to name a person now i would say Joe Calzaghe i think you spell it that way.He showed he could outbox a slugger like Lacy which showed me a little something about how good he is.None of you people thought he would avoid being knocked out never less win.
Well those are some of the most complete fighters if i think of more i will post them

[LondonRingRules]

Robinson, Tunney, Charles, Jofre, Jimmy Barry...

Robinson was not always well trained, so discipline was his biggest weakness, not that he was ever really poorly trained.

Tunney and Charles could do it all and Jofre was as close to a perfect fighter as there has ever been. Jimmy Barry was a powerhouse with no known weakness. Both Barry and Charles sort of declined a bit after killing men in the ring.

Charles and Robinson also hung on too long because of finances, so maybe that could downgrade them, not being able to retire close to the top.

[LondonRingRules]

======First of all Robinson had a glass chin.========

** 2nd all, you ain't nutin' but a big ol' glob of stink that needs a good flushin'. Why don't you try to see if you can pass the 8th grade this year.

[chris_cov]

from what iv seen sugar ray robinson.

[Kid Achilles]

You'd have to be a completely worthless piece of **** moron to think Ray Robinson had a glass chin. The kind of guy who would, oh I don't know, rank George Foreman over Muhammad Ali?

[fitz1888]

The kind of guy who would, oh I don't know, rank George Foreman over Muhammad Ali?

Classic, could agree more.

[Azteca]

Robinson, Tunney, Charles, Jofre, Jimmy Barry...

Robinson was not always well trained, so discipline was his biggest weakness, not that he was ever really poorly trained.

Tunney and Charles could do it all and Jofre was as close to a perfect fighter as there has ever been. Jimmy Barry was a powerhouse with no known weakness. Both Barry and Charles sort of declined a bit after killing men in the ring.

Charles and Robinson also hung on too long because of finances, so maybe that could downgrade them, not being able to retire close to the top.

that's a good point on jofre, mate. it's something i have definetly thought about. he was like the tyson of the lower weights. very class fighter, he could do it all.

[oldgringo]

Mike McCallum became pretty close to a complete fighter during his prime. He didn't have the most talent out there, but he perfected his particular style and became a force. Great chin, good power in both hands, legendary body attack, could counter or lead, threw punches at all angles, knew the ins and outs of the ring, etc...

Good combination puncher too when he'd work from the body to the head.

[hemichromis]

You'd have to be a completely worthless piece of **** moron to think Ray Robinson had a glass chin. The kind of guy who would, oh I don't know, rank George Foreman over Muhammad Ali?

if foreman only had heart in his first career he could have beaten ali