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    Any Evidence Heavyweights Get More KO's

    Is there any statistical evidence pertaining to KO ratios of the various divisions? This is not one for opinions.

    #2
    Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
    Is there any statistical evidence pertaining to KO ratios of the various divisions? This is not one for opinions.
    interesting topic, ive always wanted to know about this too.
    KO ratio statistics of larger groups.
    ie. weight classes, ethnicity, ethnicity that gets KOed the most/least etc.. i wonder where we could find these stats. i suppose boxrec can if they wanted to.
    just gotta do some SQL ****

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      #3
      Ask for actual evidence on here and our homespun, self-proclaimed boxing geniuses disappear. They specialize in opinion only. This speaks loudly of their understanding and concept of what history is. If it ain't Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492, it's on to bashing others for their supposedly inferior knowledge. A date or an opinion, that's all these boys have under their hoods. They have no concept of statistical data and no concept of history itself other than Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492. That focuses their knowledge of history. They would not have a clue as to how to conduct proper historical research, because their concept of history is snatched from their third grade texts. They never learned what history is. Most people think they automatically know what history is. They know what mathmatics is, they know what Engliish and geography are. Therefore they must know what history is. They had enough of it in school. They have proven many times they do not even know what a fact is, other than Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492. A fact to them is something like that, or their opinion which is so strongly held that they begin calling it fact.

      Wake up. History is a philosophy. I know that idea stuns them. They are saying now, what, what? That's right, history is not merely a body of scattered facts and dates. History is also the Supreme Fiction. But this fiction must be assembled according to rules of scholarship. The mortar of their philosphy is opinion with scattered facts and dates. It takes a proper understanding of what history is before you can be a historian. They think an archivist is an historian. With their philosophy, the most they could become is proper archivists, unqualified to give an opinion on anything they have dug up.
      Last edited by The Old LefHook; 09-04-2015, 05:58 AM.

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        #4
        Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
        Ask for actual evidence on here and our homespun, self-proclaimed boxing geniuses disappear. They specialize in opinion only. This speaks loudly of their understanding and concept of what history is. If it ain't Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492, it's on to bashing others for their supposedly inferior knowledge. A date or an opinion, that's all these boys have under their hoods. They have no concept of statistical data and no concept of history itself other than Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492. That focuses their knowledge of history. They would not have a clue as to how to conduct proper historical research, because their concept of history is snatched from their third grade texts. They never learned what history is. Most people think they automatically know what history is. They know what mathmatics is, they know what Engliish and geography are. Therefore they must know what history is. They had enough of it in school. They have proven many times they do not even know what a fact is, other than Columbus sailed the ocean blue in 1492. A fact to them is something like that, or their opinion which is so strongly held that they begin calling it fact.

        Wake up. History is a philosophy. I know that idea stuns them. They are saying now, what, what? That's right, history is not merely a body of scattered facts and dates. History is also the Supreme Fiction. But this fiction must be assembled according to rules of scholarship. The mortar of their philosphy is opinion with scattered facts and dates. It takes a proper understanding of what history is before you can be a historian. They think an archivist is an historian. With their philosophy, the most they could become is proper archivists, unqualified to give an opinion on anything they have dug up.
        Dafuq?

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          #5
          Criteria: Ring Top 10 Fighters. Weight classes who have a name next to them means that he is the consensus best fighter of the weight division, therefore he was not added to the total. Instead, the weight classes with names to them is seen as how dangerous/safe that weight class is to the consensus best fighter of the respective weight class. Weight classes with "n/a" next to them, means that there is no real best fighter there and all top 10 Fighters were added.


          HW 255 W (187 KO's) - 73% - W. Klitschko - Danger zone. Most dangerous weight class to fight in!
          CW 313 W (211 KO's) - 67% - Hernandez
          LHW 287 W (178 KO's) - 62% - Kovalev
          SMW 331 W (221 KO's) - 66% - Ward
          MW 328 W (186 KO's) - 56% - GGG - Second safest weight class to fight in.
          SWW 267 W (156 KO's) - 58% - Mayweather
          WW 345 W (235 KO's) - 68% - Mayweather - Second most dangerous weight class.
          SWW 227 W (139 KO's) - 61% - D. Garcia
          LW 296 W (176 KO's) - 59% - Crawford
          SFW 267 W (172 KO's) - 64% - n/a
          FW 260 W (159 KO's) - 61% - n/a
          SBW 240 W (158 KO's) - 65% - Rigondeaux
          BW 286 W (173 KO's) - 60% - n/a
          SFLW 279 W (181 KO's) - 64% - Inoue
          FLW 281 W (181 KO's) - 64% - Gonzalez
          JFLW 290 W (164 KO's) - 56% - n/a
          Straw 223 W (111 KO's) - 49% - n/a - Safest weight class to fight in.
          __________________

          This is not my work, but some other anorak
          Last edited by sonnyboyx2; 09-04-2015, 08:57 AM.

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            #6


            Sometimes you can be a real dolt....this research exercise took all the strength my fingers could muster....it instantly rendered all my previous opinions null and void...it took thirty seconds on Google and boy now I feel like a real poster

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              #7
              Originally posted by billeau2 View Post


              Sometimes you can be a real dolt....this research exercise took all the strength my fingers could muster....it instantly rendered all my previous opinions null and void...it took thirty seconds on Google and boy now I feel like a real poster
              Thanks for calling me a dolt. In spite of that I consider you a prized poster around here, since I always finish your posts and usually enjoy them, ya churl. Sometimes we have to call people out. Look at the meritous post of Sonny right before yours. That's what I call information. I know Sonny has this abilty inside him. Sometimes it gets obscured. The kid has it in him to practically own this place, but it will never be done with opinion. I know he is a storehouse of opinion. It just may be that he is also the storehouse of information he always claims to be. The information he posted is worth more than a hundred posts expressing one's opinion. That's my opinion.

              I was surprised to see the middleweight ranking as second safest. This is current data. No idea how well these ternds reflect historical trends, but it is an interesting question. The numbers probably dip and trend depending on the fighters in a particular division at a particular time.

              Good job, Sonny. Please keep it up and I will become a foamy fan of yours. Hell, I might travel to England and apply as your secretary.

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                #8
                Originally posted by billeau2 View Post


                Sometimes you can be a real dolt....this research exercise took all the strength my fingers could muster....it instantly rendered all my previous opinions null and void...it took thirty seconds on Google and boy now I feel like a real poster
                I read the article in your link. I like this guy's careful approach. He does not try to pull a conclusion out of everything. No new ideas, except that these things can be approached scientifically. Very solid IMO. Keep doing my research, boy, and I'll give you some candy.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
                  Thanks for calling me a dolt. In spite of that I consider you a prized poster around here, since I always finish your posts and usually enjoy them, ya churl. Sometimes we have to call people out. Look at the meritous post of Sonny right before yours. That's what I call information. I know Sonny has this abilty inside him. Sometimes it gets obscured. The kid has it in him to practically own this place, but it will never be done with opinion. I know he is a storehouse of opinion. It just may be that he is also the storehouse of information he always claims to be. The information he posted is worth more than a hundred posts expressing one's opinion. That's my opinion.

                  I was surprised to see the middleweight ranking as second safest. This is current data. No idea how well these ternds reflect historical trends, but it is an interesting question. The numbers probably dip and trend depending on the fighters in a particular division at a particular time.

                  Good job, Sonny. Please keep it up and I will become a foamy fan of yours. Hell, I might travel to England and apply as your secretary.
                  Wot the hell

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by The Old LefHook View Post
                    I read the article in your link. I like this guy's careful approach. He does not try to pull a conclusion out of everything. No new ideas, except that these things can be approached scientifically. Very solid IMO. Keep doing my research, boy, and I'll give you some candy.
                    Its scary....truly scary how much research one can do these days on the net. These kids have no idea the resources they have. Google should be used with no expectation of privacy, but ITS BECOME LIKE THE COMPUTER ON STAR TREK! It blows my mind.

                    As a youngster i used to watch star trek and then when I got to college we had these word processors of death...like Valdox, where if a short emerged you would lose all your data And in my lifetime (with a few years to spare) I can ask my machine questions like Captian Kirk!

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