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    Billy fought started as a welter and moved through the divisions fighting very good competition but having a very low ko ratio. After winning the lhw he fought heavyweight comp and proceeded to stop half of his opponents. He also staggered Louis and made the fatal mistake of trading and although leading on the cards this change in tactics enabled Joe to stop him. My question is why did Billy stop his heavy weight opponents at a higher clip than the lower division's?

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    Originally posted by rightsideup View Post
    Billy fought started as a welter and moved through the divisions fighting very good competition but having a very low ko ratio. After winning the lhw he fought heavyweight comp and proceeded to stop half of his opponents. He also staggered Louis and made the fatal mistake of trading and although leading on the cards this change in tactics enabled Joe to stop him. My question is why did Billy stop his heavy weight opponents at a higher clip than the lower division's?
    Billy Conn started at lightweight.

    His first fight was at 135, and for his next few he weighed in the 130s.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Freedom. View Post
      Billy Conn started at lightweight.

      His first fight was at 135, and for his next few he weighed in the 130s.
      thanks he had 4 /6 contests at lw

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        #4
        Originally posted by rightsideup View Post
        Billy fought started as a welter and moved through the divisions fighting very good competition but having a very low ko ratio. After winning the lhw he fought heavyweight comp and proceeded to stop half of his opponents. He also staggered Louis and made the fatal mistake of trading and although leading on the cards this change in tactics enabled Joe to stop him. My question is why did Billy stop his heavy weight opponents at a higher clip than the lower division's?
        Nostalgics don't want to hear this but ,put on size you put on power almost always,Conn was very tall and skinny at the lower weight classes,at HW he wasn't big either but much stronger than in his lower classes,thats why he did better at the Hw class in terms of stopping guys.Louis isn't a very big Hw either and has been knocked down several times,i don't know if that was Joes chin or Conns improved power,probably both.

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          #5
          Originally posted by juggernaut666 View Post
          Nostalgics don't want to hear this but ,put on size you put on power almost always,Conn was very tall and skinny at the lower weight classes,at HW he wasn't big either but much stronger than in his lower classes,thats why he did better at the Hw class in terms of stopping guys.Louis isn't a very big Hw either and has been knocked down several times,i don't know if that was Joes chin or Conns improved power,probably both.
          yes this is the case as Billy was not physically mature as a young fighter and boxed with skill beyond his age

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            #6
            Originally posted by rightsideup View Post
            yes this is the case as Billy was not physically mature as a young fighter and boxed with skill beyond his age
            Exactly...

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              #7
              Conn was a teenager at lightweight (16 & 17) by the time he was 19 yrs he was at middleweight and at 21 was fighting at Lightheavy. Got a title shot at
              22 yrs old and thats his title beginnings. He always could punch well but when your a kid fighting men your power doesn't always come through.
              He had NO amatuer bouts that I know of and lost half of his first dozen or so fights. He learned quickly however and took on some very seasoned fighters at a young age.
              He was an outstanding boxer by the time he signed to face Louis.
              He got greedy for a second with Louis and the lights went out!

              Ray

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                #8
                Originally posted by Ray Corso View Post
                Conn was a teenager at lightweight (16 & 17) by the time he was 19 yrs he was at middleweight and at 21 was fighting at Lightheavy. Got a title shot at
                22 yrs old and thats his title beginnings. He always could punch well but when your a kid fighting men your power doesn't always come through.
                He had NO amatuer bouts that I know of and lost half of his first dozen or so fights. He learned quickly however and took on some very seasoned fighters at a young age.
                He was an outstanding boxer by the time he signed to face Louis.
                He got greedy for a second with Louis and the lights went out!

                Ray
                all Joe needed was an opening just like the second Walcott fight

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                  #9
                  Guys get better, and learn how to sit down on their punches... I haven't seen any footage of conn below 175, but I imagine he was an arm puncher at the lower weights, and thru experience learned how to sit down on his punches, plus the added weight would make his punches heavier... Just my 2 cents, like I said, I have never seen footage of him below 175 so I'm just doing an educated guess

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali View Post
                    Guys get better, and learn how to sit down on their punches... I haven't seen any footage of conn below 175, but I imagine he was an arm puncher at the lower weights, and thru experience learned how to sit down on his punches, plus the added weight would make his punches heavier... Just my 2 cents, like I said, I have never seen footage of him below 175 so I'm just doing an educated guess
                    he fought some excellent fighters below 75

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