Fighters that beat mayweather....

[jas]

whitaker - great defensively, throws more combos, didnt shell up like floyd sometimes does
pacquaio - would win on activity

[MrTambourineMan]

Robinson
Armstrong
pep
Gans
B. Leonard
Duran
Gavilan
Ross
Canzoneri
Burley
Napoles
Joe Walcott
Ortiz
Whitaker
Williams
Basilio
Saddler
Chocolate
Benitez
Pacquiao
Pedroza
Prime De La Hoya
Prime Mosley
Griffith
Forrest
Curry
McCallum


.... And many many more.

[Ricardo b]

Roberto duran. Best pressure fighter in history. Would cause Floyd all sorts of problems.

[likeamulekick]

Just trying to imagine if Floyd would of moved up to junior middle like he did cotto but when there were monsters like julian Jackson or Gerald McClellan in there, does any1 think those guys could cut down to welterweight to fight Floyd. Would he actually fight any of the guys mentioned in this thread, if they were all in his era? Pretty insulting when he calls himself the best ever, it's not who you lose to it's who you beat

[Scott9945]

Robinson
Armstrong
pep
Gans
B. Leonard
Duran
Gavilan
Ross
Canzoneri
Burley
Napoles
Joe Walcott
Ortiz
Whitaker
Williams
Basilio
Saddler
Chocolate
Benitez
Pacquiao
Pedroza
Prime De La Hoya
Prime Mosley
Griffith
Forrest
Curry
McCallum


.... And many many more.

Which Pedroza is that? I hope you don't mean Eusebio.

[billeau2]

A lot of names mentioned that all could conceviably beat Floyd. What we do know is that the blueprint does now exist. Early in his career and late Flpyd had trouble with pressure guys. Castillo and Maidanna. Now and then hes been caught good by punchers, Judah, Mosley....after both guys were past it... And Oscar's jab was trouble for him. What this tells me is the following

1) hearn's jab wins him the fight against Mayweather
2) While I consider Duran more a puncher boxer...he knew how to apply pressure and would beat Duran mch as he beat Leanard the first fight.
3) I think Whitaker would also beat Floyd because you couldn't counter the Pea at his best and he could catch Floyd more than Flloyd could ctch him.
4) Any pressure guys like Hagler etc that were small enough to fight Floyd at lightweight could be a serious problem for Floyd.

Beyond this many more could win as well, many of the people mentioned

[billeau2]

Just wanted to put Sandy Saddler in the mix...speaking of pressure guys who could take Floyd, this would be one great scrap!

[IronDanHamza]

Robinson
Armstrong
pep
Gans
B. Leonard
Duran
Gavilan
Ross
Canzoneri
Burley
Napoles
Joe Walcott
Ortiz
Whitaker
Williams
Basilio
Saddler
Chocolate
Benitez
Pacquiao
Pedroza
Prime De La Hoya
Prime Mosley
Griffith
Forrest
Curry
McCallum


.... And many many more.

What do you base Joe Walcott beating Mayweather off?

[GrandpaBernard]

no **** sherlock.

lamotta was a career MW, in fact he started his career at 175 and then moved down. at 160 he had to boil down and cut a lot of weight to make the limit. he only gave SRR problems because of that immense size advantage and floyd is even smaller than ray.

nobody is talking about MWs except you. if we were talking MWs you could make a list a mile long and thats not a knock on floyd, dude is just way too small to compete at that weight against natural MWs.

SRR was a lightweight at one point, having his prime years at WW. so he was bigger than floyd but its a reasonable size difference. he would knock floyd out in a fight that actually makes sense.

someone mentioned curry, i doubt that. curry was very good but based on his fights with starling (the only really good WW technician he ever beat) i think floyd beats him. besides, curry would square up his feet and keep them too far apart and had poor movement as a result. i dont see how he would keep up with the mobility of a prime mayweather. even if he did successfully cut floyd off mayweather could just step inside and exploit currys lack of an inside game.

emile griffith, jose napoles, vernon forrest and maybe kid gavilan would all have good chances of beating floyd at WW which isnt his best weight.

aaron pryor, sweet pea and ike williams would give him a good run for his money at the lower weights.

he would box circles around pacquiao and chavez sr who have been mentioned by others. i broke both fights down a million times already, not in the mod to do it again.

also, i ignored the fabulous four as specified in the thread.

edit: SRR was not "basically floyd but 1000 times better" at all, they were very, very different fighters stylistically.

very reasonable post

great big man with a significant size advantage usually beats great smaller man. Many of these responses are thoughtless. It'd be like me saying Ezzard Charles beats Thomas Hearns when

guys around Floyd's size who would be a pain for him

Duran
Whitaker
Armstrong
Pryor

if they were to fight three times, Chavez is good enough where he could win 1 close fight

Educated pressure has had the most success against Floyd

[slipcatchroll]

no **** sherlock.

lamotta was a career MW, in fact he started his career at 175 and then moved down. at 160 he had to boil down and cut a lot of weight to make the limit. he only gave SRR problems because of that immense size advantage and floyd is even smaller than ray.

nobody is talking about MWs except you. if we were talking MWs you could make a list a mile long and thats not a knock on floyd, dude is just way too small to compete at that weight against natural MWs.

SRR was a lightweight at one point, having his prime years at WW. so he was bigger than floyd but its a reasonable size difference. he would knock floyd out in a fight that actually makes sense.

someone mentioned curry, i doubt that. curry was very good but based on his fights with starling (the only really good WW technician he ever beat) i think floyd beats him. besides, curry would square up his feet and keep them too far apart and had poor movement as a result. i dont see how he would keep up with the mobility of a prime mayweather. even if he did successfully cut floyd off mayweather could just step inside and exploit currys lack of an inside game.

emile griffith, jose napoles, vernon forrest and maybe kid gavilan would all have good chances of beating floyd at WW which isnt his best weight.

aaron pryor, sweet pea and ike williams would give him a good run for his money at the lower weights.

he would box circles around pacquiao and chavez sr who have been mentioned by others. i broke both fights down a million times already, not in the mod to do it again.

also, i ignored the fabulous four as specified in the thread.

edit: SRR was not "basically floyd but 1000 times better" at all, they were very, very different fighters stylistically.

Forrest - Mayweather would've been an interesting bout and certainly one of the better wins Floyd could've put on his resume. It's a shame Floyd didn't call him out after he beat Mosley.