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    #51
    Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post

    Yeah, that one caught me by surprise too. Doesn't seem he's willing to explain his claim either. Oh well.
    1980 - Defeated Pipino Cuevas for WBA welterweight title...
    1982 - Defeated Wilfred Benetez for WBC light middle...
    1986 - Defeated James Shuler for NABF Middleweight...
    1987 - Defeated Dennis Andries for WBC light heavy...
    1987 - Defeated Juan Roldan for vacant WBC Middleweight...
    1991 - Defeated Virgil Hill for WBA light heavyweight...
    1994 - Defeated Dan Ward for NABF Cruiser...

    There may be a chance I'd missed a couple...

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      #52
      Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
      He gets to much flak for his chin. He was stopped by two all-time greats and a HUGE middleweight. What exactly do you mean by he had no discipline?
      Agreed. That myth will only get worse as time passes too.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Mintcar923 View Post
        No disipline??????????
        Hearns just loved to mix it up when ever he got hurt he wanted to come back and hurt you. Hearns just didn't have it in him to jab and hold his way to a decision and thats what made him so exciting but unfortunately it cost him a few big wins.

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          #54
          Originally posted by SCtrojansbaby View Post
          Hearns just loved to mix it up when ever he got hurt he wanted to come back and hurt you. Hearns just didn't have it in him to jab and hold his way to a decision and thats what made him so exciting but unfortunately it cost him a few big wins.
          With all due respect, this is a load of crap. You've tried labelling Hearns whole career based on losses to other all time greats. Fact is given Tommy's ability to put opponents to sleep he fought very disciplined, using his jab and looking for openings, and when he did get hurt he usually tried to hold on.

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            #55
            I'm half way through my Hearns under-rated chin video. Should be done in a week or two.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Barnburner View Post
              I'm half way through my Hearns under-rated chin video. Should be done in a week or two.



              i like the concept.

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                #57
                Originally posted by JAB5239 View Post
                With all due respect, this is a load of crap. You've tried labelling Hearns whole career based on losses to other all time greats. Fact is given Tommy's ability to put opponents to sleep he fought very disciplined, using his jab and looking for openings, and when he did get hurt he usually tried to hold on.
                Show me a fight where Hearns got hurt then pulled off and stayed out side and jabbed/hold the rest of the fight not getting caught up in trading again? Not doing what I just explained for sure cost him both Leonard fights and both Barkley fights.

                Also no one is labeling his whole career because he lost to Leonard and Hagler. But to pretend like he didn't have a few really bad flaws is just naive.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Scott9945 View Post
                  It was totally awesome that you bumped that post.
                  Agreed.

                  That sums up our good friend GJC in a nutshell.

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                    #59
                    In his prime Hearns lost only three times: One to an ATG top-3 Welter in Ray Leonard (in which he spent the vast majority of the fight jabbing his way to a big points lead), one out of his ideal weight-class to an ATG top-5 Middleweight (who wouldn't LET Hearns box his way out of trouble), and one out of his ideal weight-class against a pretty big puncher who was really a Light-Heavy fighting at Middle. Exactly which fights did he lose is Hearns supposed to have jabbed his way to victory? When you're facing another ATG like Leonard or Hagler THEY I have a good deal of say over what you can or can't do. I daresay Floyd Mayweather, when facing an opponent of Leonard or Hagler's caliber is NOT going to dictate the fight to them. At very least an ATG fighter of their caliber is going to have at least as much to say over what happens in the fight as he does.

                    Poet

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                      #60
                      The longer I train, the more I am amazed by Tommy Hearns. I've spent endless hours watching tape, studying how he put that powerful snap not only into his jab and right, but even his left hook. And, the footwork, forget about it. Truly incredible talent and it's no wonder that people who really know boxing have a lot of respect for Hearns.

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